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of the food July 8 1947 here on the

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found and is now in the possession of

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the RA the game is rigged change the

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game changer I occasionally think how

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quickly our differences worldwide would

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vanish if we were facing an alien threat

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fade to black with your host Jimmy

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church on the game-changer radio network

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I need your help to the year 1985

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you listening today too

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with jimmy touch on the game change in

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misspoke radio for

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masses and how you doing how you doing

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125 days into the New Year only 241 days

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may the 4th be with you

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happy Star Wars day everybody night we

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are live from a bunker somewhere in the

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middle of beautiful downtown Burbank

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everybody listening all around the world

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all across the United States hither and

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thither to and fro back and forth up and

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our meal Jimmy Church what is crack at

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you know you know this this planet is a

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when you have Star Wars day yeah got a

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great week here on fade to black

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and Rita and I were just talking before

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the show and the next three weeks for

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and I I just can't believe what's coming

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much fun to do because tonight very

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special guest and kicking off the week

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Whitley Strieber is here and man oh man

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tonight and then tomorrow night right

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Nick Redfern Nick Redfern has got a new

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conspiracy and I post it today and I

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Wednesday Thursday night's another Fator

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night with open lines all night long

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at Jay Church radio all right you can

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kick it off right there start your fade

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involvement your participation as a fade

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that's out there okay I guess the old

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know okay let's move on let's move on

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breaking news a landslide left a dozen

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people displaced after their homes came

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dangerously close to being destroyed all

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of this happened in New York in

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Waterford and these pictures that are

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all over the net show this one home

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off the edge of a cliff right and other

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homes are just feet away initially seven

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homes were evacuated but after engineers

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inspected the area that number was

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reduced to three the numbers shall be

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three the cause of the landslide is

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unknown but the area used to be a gravel

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archaeologists have unearthed the

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remains of a Bronze Age chieftain buried

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with profound wealth instead of

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receiving just one cattle head and hoof

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had four such offerings that's right for

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head and hoof archaeologists found the

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burials ahead of the construction of a

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in about 2200 BC head and hoof that

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the mission will launch astronauts Bob

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mark NASA's first crew launch from

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historic launch pad 39a the same site

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stuff finally happening right here in

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now the star works UFOs an artificial

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going to be there Paul hi and it's going

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alan stivell man Sid Goldberg and

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another dozen great speakers all right

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now I'm gonna be hosting and I'm gonna

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be doing some talking so tickets and

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calm very excited about disclosure fest

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now it has a new date which is August

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Angeles at the historic Los Angeles Park

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right there in downtown ok visit

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disclosure fest org for all of your

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information and updates and tomorrow I

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believe it is tomorrow are you ready I'm

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gonna be hosting the disclosure fest

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livestream with Steven Greer this is our

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part 2 so we're gonna have a chat

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down tomorrow and we'll have the links

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because we officially haven't gotten it

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the conjuring house who the new owners

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day at home orders so a seven-day

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paranormal lockdown and next Monday

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talking to the family for a couple of

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just gonna be amazing and I get ready

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for all of that

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skip the show crack and happy birthday

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to today one of my favorites Will Arnett

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today 50 years old let's go to prison

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hot rod the rocker right

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he's also Batman in the Lego movies I

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bet you didn't know that Green Day

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bassist Mike don't

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today is 48 guys a real bass player by

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the way jazz bass living icon Ron Carter

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today is 82 course

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Miles Davis Blue Note Records right his

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appearances on 2221 recording sessions

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make him the most recorded jazz bassist

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in history Ron Carter today 82 years old

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Motley Crue's Mick Mars today 69 years

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old that's right and in syncs Lance Bass

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he said it today is 41 years old Lance

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will always make the birthday list

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because of Tropic Thunder our dead guys

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birthday today is Dick Dale 1937 to 2019

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died at the age of 81 Dale was known as

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the king of the surf guitar his song

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misirlou' was used by Quentin Tarantino

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on pulp fiction now misirlou' due to the

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suffix ooh right is the feminine Greek

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form of miss earl asst or egypt

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therefore

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the song is about an Egyptian woman

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now think about luma Thurman's haircut

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I'm just saying I'm just saying there

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you go on this day in history 1970

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National Guardsmen fire fire their

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weapons at a group of anti-war

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demonstrators on the Kent State

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University campus killing four students

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wounding eight and permanently

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paralyzing another yeah sad day in

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American history game-changer fader fact

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in 1859 Thomas Austin now this is for

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everybody in Australia in the land down

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under this is for you in 1859 Thomas

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Austin released 24 rabbits for hunting

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into the wild in Australia that's right

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a country which at that time had no

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native rabbit population by 1920 60

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years later their population increased

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to 10 billion this is the fastest spread

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ever recorded of any mammal and that

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heavens table sets and that is your

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fader fact I wonder if there's a Thomas

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Austin national holiday in Australia

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there you go let the tweets fly from all

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of our friends and Australia that's a

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crazy fader fact right there all right

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where am I at

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tonight Whitley Strieber is here is

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going to be with us at the bottom of the

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hour and I'm really looking forward to

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this conversation tonight so get ready

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for that but first let me hit this River

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moon coffee River moon coffee dot-com

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fade to black blend best coffee in the

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man and that's good coffee

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oops whoa okay after all of this is over

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this virus crisis

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can you imagine what air travel is going

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to be like think about that for a second

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I don't think that the changes are going

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to be of the good variety now here's the

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thing if you are old enough to remember

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okay if you're old enough to remember

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flying back in the day and I'm talking

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about the 60s through the mid-90s and

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remember whether mid 90s that I'd you

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know it's 25 years ago it's crazy

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you know how great it was right you do I

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remember and the memories are good back

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then it was all about the passenger the

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flyer every single thing that could or

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would make your travel better was

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attended to all of it flying made you

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feel special you see every airline was

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going to make you special regal and

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appreciated sure it was the food it was

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the drink it was the questions why are

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you doing you okay or you did there

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anything I can do is it it was the

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pillow

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it was the smoking actually it was a

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friggin party at 30,000 feet and it was

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a party that was thrown just for you and

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you know this it was great

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love flying I remember I was flying home

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to Indy back in 1985 and I was traveling

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with my new flame guitar which is

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hanging up over there was some other

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some other guitars it's hanging up over

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there and I was flying home with a

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guitar

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and it was just built by Neil Moser it

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was fresh he had just finished it and I

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wanted to show it to my family and

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friends now I wasn't going to check it

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in as baggage no you're not gonna do

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that with a guitar like that so I

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planned on just carrying it onto the

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plane and get it into the overhead

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compartment somehow in the back that was

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my plan anyway as I walked up to the

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door of the plane with my long hair you

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know full of Aqua Net the flight

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attendant says to me what is that and I

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said hey this is a new custom guitar

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you'll want to see it she said sure so I

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put the guitar in the ground I opened up

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the case and she continued with like wow

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that is beautiful and then she says if

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you want I can put it in first-class for

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you where it'll be safe with me and you

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can pick it up when we land how does

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that wow thank you so much that is so

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nice she literally took the guitar case

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and put it in the first-class coat

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closet which is right there next to her

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seat and said it's safe there it is she

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closed the doors oh wow so go have the

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fighting and what happened now imagine I

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mean she was so nice

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you know she cared it wasn't an act now

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I imagine this happening today you can't

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because it would never happen today I

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remember I remember the the end of the

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good old days of flying I do I remember

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like it was yesterday

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I had a travel agent her name was Carol

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who handled everything for me when I was

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flying on business throughout the 90s

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she was great and when when I was

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getting my account set

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with her as a client she had me fill out

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a bunch of paperwork and one of them was

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a preference form you know a thing about

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me and it had like favorite and

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preferred foods and drinks and you know

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aisle or window seats in what the front

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of the back of the plane right do you

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normally have checked on or carry-on

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luggage or both and on this form I wrote

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seafood for meals

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I wrote fresh coffee and Perrier for

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drinks and then I had a breakfast

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section had a lunch section and I even

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wrote scrambled eggs sausage and bacon

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for breakfast I did seriously these were

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actual questions now on my first

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business flight with the Carol that she

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booked for me as the flight attendant

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comes down the aisle asking everyone

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chicken or beef chicken or beef chicken

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or beef they skipped me all right and I

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didn't think anything about it at the

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time but when the food was delivered

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there was a fresh salad with shrimp on

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the top and my name written on a label

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and I was like wow mr. Church right

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this service happened on every flight

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for a few years and I really got used to

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it I'm telling you I flew in the morning

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man scrambled eggs bacon sausage is that

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Perrier you know and flight attendants

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of command here's your fresh coffee mr.

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turtle Wow Wow this is great

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well I loved flying I did then Southwest

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happened screwed it up for everybody and

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then you can follow that with the

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unabomber because at that time in 1996

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I'd have until the day I remember and

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when everything changed right I was on a

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plane every single week I know what was

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going

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I'm out there everything was great until

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a flight from Sacramento back to Los

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Angeles at the gate in Sacramento right

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waiting for it waiting to board the

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plane some feds show up badges and cops

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and literally walk in to the seating

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area at the gate and started to walk up

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to people asking them to search their

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carry-on luggage but I'm watching this

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go down I'm undecided see it see it

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going down over here and some people

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were absolutely horrified just to have

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them open up their bags and just imagine

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being surprised about this that's one

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thing today you expect it imagine that

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just walk up open your bags right

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everyone was getting really

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uncomfortable and the agents started to

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say things like if I can't search your

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carry-on you're gonna have to book

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another flight and I nearly lost it in

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anger

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I've man it was getting ugly now when

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they came up to me that was a different

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person I caved I did no anger I wasn't

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gonna show anything I needed to get out

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of this flight I even unzipped my bag

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form you know and they went through my

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computer case as well and I just felt so

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violated and then a couple of days later

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I was flying from LA to New York

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non-stop out of LAX and and I'm on this

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flight and the flight attendant comes up

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to me says chicken or beef I was like

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what chicken or beef chicken and I

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thought to myself they must have lost my

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name somewhere

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check with Carol tomorrow you know get

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to the bottom of this so the next day I

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called her and I said hey Carol they

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forgot to give me my seafood salad right

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and her reply was she's like a Jimmy

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there's some changes happening with air

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travel no more special menu requests and

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in fact

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soon there's going to be no more food

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what 1996 was the last year of real air

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travel five years later 9/11 happened

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and that took things to a new level you

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know and with the Unabomber and T TSA

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and searches and all of that combined

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with the downsizing and budget cuts in

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the airline industry and then 9/11

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happened and and when I know haven't

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happened that broke through to a level

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right through the floor to a place that

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we just didn't know anything about right

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but today most of us are used to the

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absolute no-frills airline industry and

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the draconian TSA lines shoe removal

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body scans airports and flights have

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been reduced to nothingness nothing

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matters not you not your luggage not the

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experience the flight attendants they

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don't want to be there the workers at

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the airport they don't want to be there

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the pilots are nothing special anymore

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you remember how they had that they had

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God status well today they're treated

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like first-time McDonald employees

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working part-time during summer vacation

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from school so you have to ask yourself

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how can it get any worse just wait

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you'll see you'll see there won't be

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anybody greeting you at the planes door

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you know saying how are you today

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everything okay

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let me take that extra precious special

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guitar and put it in first-class where

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it'll be safe nope not going to hear it

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and maybe this will be the chance for

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the entire airline industry to change to

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roll back to the times when flying was

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special and they may have to do it right

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they're gonna have to do it to win our

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hearts back and our wallets there you go

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anything is possible right

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this is fade to black I am your host

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Jimmy Church tonight Whitley Strieber is

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here this is fade to black on the game

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welcome back fade to black

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I am your host Jimmy church tonight

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Whitley Strieber is here tomorrow night

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Johnny

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Enoch Wednesday night Nick Redfern

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Thursday night another Fator night with

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open lines all night long what a great

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weekend Whitley is here tonight to kick

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things off that we are going to discuss

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his recent communication with the

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visitors and their message to all of us

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right here on planet Earth

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of course Whitley is the author of of

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the communion series of books and his

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latest book released last year a new

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world and as science advances we are

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finding that the universe is far larger

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more complex than we ever imagined and

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mysterious beings like our visitors

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which was dismissed by many are turning

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out to be real this is a calling to all

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of us to find a new life a new world in

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which they play a part which not only

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was Whitley the author of the communion

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series and many novels ranging from

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Wolfen and the hunger to the greys and

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the Alien Hunter series communion the

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Wolfen the hunger and superstorm have

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all been made into movies and super

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storm of course was the day after

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tomorrow

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his web sites are unknown country calm

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and streebek calm the links were over at

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Timmy Church radio calm you can click on

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those I would like to welcome back to

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fade to black Whitley Strieber

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I just love saying Whitley Strieber you

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like that rhythm in the words yeah it's

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good to be back Jimmy I'm very wish it

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was happier times but I'm still glad to

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be here and I'm glad everyone's here to

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well as I sign off maybe after a couple

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of broadcasts instead of saying gobekli

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tepe I'll just say Whitley Strieber I'll

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do that

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Whitley in my opening rant tonight and I

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only say this because you and I are from

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another generation than you know a large

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part of this audience is much already

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yeah I know

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I know I know I know I know it's scary

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but it's it's it's this Whitley air

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travel you through the you've

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experienced just like I have each decade

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of air travel and and its degradation

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but up until the mid 90s air travel was

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special wasn't it you felt oh yeah you

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were at another level right it's not

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that way anymore listen I listen I grew

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up in the 50s and my dad was a big fan

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of air travel and he took me everywhere

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he went he loved to take his boy with

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him and so I flew all over the place

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with my father back in the in the days

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when airplanes were noisier more bumpy

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more comfortable more special and more

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yeah and flying was an event right your

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hair was combed no dressed up yeah

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little boy had on a little tie and suit

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just like his daddy

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yeah absolutely yeah it's a big deal and

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you know mukbang and you always see the

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pictures of the food on the long-haul

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flights but the actual truth was that

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they're on a short haul flight you get

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basically a sandwich and coffee or

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something like pretty much like you do a

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little more than you do now but not all

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that much the heyday of it actually was

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in the 70s and then there were still a

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lot of airline competition the they were

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subsidized so they could afford to to to

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they could afford to compete with each

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other other over what you got and there

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was even one airline that was like

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cooking steaks in the air yeah remember

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that there ways or something yeah I said

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and you know some hair another I don't

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want to be in an airplane where they're

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grilling steaks in the back I'd rather

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not be grilled myself you know

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remember that whole ad campaign with the

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old steaks I totally remember that I I

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was old enough in right in the middle of

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the 70s I did some flying by myself I

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had to fly to and from Central America

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many times and and well yeah I was 15

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yeah 14 15 16 years old yeah I flew all

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over when I was a kid too

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yeah and it was it was so much fun you

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know and yeah felt like you were part of

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a monarchy you know and right I mean it

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was really fun and in in the 60s I flew

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a lot

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I flew mostly with my dad when I was a

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little boy but him in the 60s I flew a

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lot by myself and it was special it was

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very very special and now today if you

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get a bag of peanuts and a cup of water

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you Eve you think you won you're

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grateful peanuts I can't I can't eat

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them of course now because I'm allergic

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to them but they're still real no I'm

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actually not allergic to them I'm joking

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but a lot of people are now yeah and

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it's and Lee this is a good lead-in

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there's always a method to my madness

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Whitley and you're used to that I know

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this yes and which is this this planet

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is going through changes right now we're

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going to be discussing that throughout

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the show tonight but part of this global

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change in front of us and we're all

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00:40:41,749 --> 00:40:41,309
wondering how it's gonna play out in the

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end

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00:40:45,829 --> 00:40:43,799
there's the airline industry that's a

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00:40:48,950 --> 00:40:45,839
perfect example of that when things fire

742
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up again what's it what what does air

743
00:40:54,559 --> 00:40:52,289
travel can it get worse right can they

744
00:40:57,650 --> 00:40:54,569
can they take it and take this down a

745
00:41:00,079 --> 00:40:57,660
notch or is this an opportunity for the

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airline industry to go you know what we

747
00:41:04,069 --> 00:41:02,279
appreciate your business and we're gonna

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00:41:06,289 --> 00:41:04,079
go the other way we're gonna kick things

749
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up and and we're gonna make flying

750
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special is this original I think that it

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depends on the top management of the

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00:41:15,890 --> 00:41:13,049
airlines JetBlue is probably going to go

753
00:41:17,870 --> 00:41:15,900
down that road Delta will go down that

754
00:41:21,170 --> 00:41:17,880
road I'm not so sure about United and

755
00:41:25,690 --> 00:41:21,180
I'm fairly sure that Americans gonna put

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00:41:34,910 --> 00:41:30,680
Oh bad I love the way your mind works

757
00:41:36,590 --> 00:41:34,920
and we were we were scheduled we're

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00:41:38,780 --> 00:41:36,600
gonna do it next year now it's been

759
00:41:41,810 --> 00:41:38,790
moved we were scheduled to go over to

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the UK this month and next month this

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00:41:46,550 --> 00:41:44,550
month next month for a conference over

762
00:41:49,160 --> 00:41:46,560
there and I was looking forward to

763
00:41:51,500 --> 00:41:49,170
flying on British air right to get that

764
00:41:53,720 --> 00:41:51,510
to see if the experience was going to be

765
00:41:55,370 --> 00:41:53,730
different and what that would be that

766
00:41:59,510 --> 00:41:55,380
would be definitely something you should

767
00:42:02,300 --> 00:41:59,520
think carefully about really oh yeah

768
00:42:06,140 --> 00:42:02,310
Burch is probably gonna go under yes all

769
00:42:08,090 --> 00:42:06,150
right that's right but virgin was much

770
00:42:10,270 --> 00:42:08,100
better than British air in recent years

771
00:42:14,930 --> 00:42:10,280
yeah well I couldn't get direct flights

772
00:42:16,850 --> 00:42:14,940
going into Manchester with virgin direct

773
00:42:18,320 --> 00:42:16,860
flights coming back out but nothing

774
00:42:21,050 --> 00:42:18,330
going on you know you know how it is

775
00:42:24,500 --> 00:42:21,060
it's just so straight but is this an

776
00:42:26,000 --> 00:42:24,510
opportunity for everybody and I'm

777
00:42:30,230 --> 00:42:26,010
talking when I say everybody I mean

778
00:42:33,320 --> 00:42:30,240
everybody on this planet from the very

779
00:42:36,440 --> 00:42:33,330
tops of politics and geopolitics and

780
00:42:38,210 --> 00:42:36,450
state actors all the way down to people

781
00:42:42,320 --> 00:42:38,220
like you and myself is this an

782
00:42:46,220 --> 00:42:42,330
opportunity for everybody to take a

783
00:42:49,160 --> 00:42:46,230
collective stance on what we have been

784
00:42:53,930 --> 00:42:49,170
doing in the past versus the future and

785
00:42:55,670 --> 00:42:53,940
and maybe make some changes we need to

786
00:42:57,110 --> 00:42:55,680
look at ourselves in a new way there's

787
00:43:00,890 --> 00:42:57,120
no question about that

788
00:43:04,190 --> 00:43:00,900
we we we are social creatures and that

789
00:43:06,530 --> 00:43:04,200
means we have two choices we either are

790
00:43:09,140 --> 00:43:06,540
going to split off into small tribal

791
00:43:12,290 --> 00:43:09,150
groups of various kinds countries cities

792
00:43:15,770 --> 00:43:12,300
towns different ideologies and political

793
00:43:19,430 --> 00:43:15,780
beliefs etc or we're going to see our

794
00:43:24,200 --> 00:43:19,440
séguin to see ourselves as a very large

795
00:43:29,060 --> 00:43:24,210
social group called humanity and right

796
00:43:33,320 --> 00:43:29,070
now it's becoming fairly clear that if

797
00:43:36,950 --> 00:43:33,330
we don't start to see ourselves as part

798
00:43:43,040 --> 00:43:36,960
of a bigger picture we're in trouble

799
00:43:45,140 --> 00:43:43,050
we cannot do this we have to everyone

800
00:43:48,079 --> 00:43:45,150
has to realize that they're not alone

801
00:43:50,030 --> 00:43:48,089
like this virus spreading like wildfire

802
00:43:53,089 --> 00:43:50,040
around the world is because we have

803
00:43:54,920 --> 00:43:53,099
really are that big group already we

804
00:43:57,829 --> 00:43:54,930
just play like we're not we play like

805
00:43:59,780 --> 00:43:57,839
well I'm from such-and-such a state and

806
00:44:02,329 --> 00:43:59,790
therefore we don't have much coronavirus

807
00:44:05,450 --> 00:44:02,339
so the state next door is get full of it

808
00:44:07,820 --> 00:44:05,460
and that's their problem but it's not I

809
00:44:10,609 --> 00:44:07,830
don't see any wall between those two

810
00:44:12,770 --> 00:44:10,619
states or and it's the same way with

811
00:44:15,560 --> 00:44:12,780
countries we're all in this together

812
00:44:17,210 --> 00:44:15,570
with especially with a pandemic God

813
00:44:20,690 --> 00:44:17,220
knows and they and the economic

814
00:44:25,310 --> 00:44:20,700
catastrophe that is on its way as well

815
00:44:28,280 --> 00:44:25,320
yeah and and that's gonna be amazing and

816
00:44:31,220 --> 00:44:28,290
it already is terrible but it is going

817
00:44:34,220 --> 00:44:31,230
to be unlike anything any of us have

818
00:44:37,310 --> 00:44:34,230
ever known in our lives and it will be

819
00:44:39,230 --> 00:44:37,320
unlike anything in our history and in

820
00:44:41,390 --> 00:44:39,240
that I clewd include the Great

821
00:44:44,420 --> 00:44:41,400
Depression and I don't mean it's going

822
00:44:46,099 --> 00:44:44,430
to be a worse version of that I mean

823
00:44:51,829 --> 00:44:46,109
it's going to be very different from

824
00:44:56,570 --> 00:44:51,839
everything and this is another way to

825
00:45:02,020 --> 00:44:56,580
look at it we know it's coming right the

826
00:45:05,390 --> 00:45:02,030
Great Depression that was sudden right

827
00:45:07,220 --> 00:45:05,400
there there were certain aspects 2008

828
00:45:10,250 --> 00:45:07,230
and what happened then a sudden a

829
00:45:12,530 --> 00:45:10,260
natural disaster sudden you know these

830
00:45:16,910 --> 00:45:12,540
are things that just occur very quickly

831
00:45:19,370 --> 00:45:16,920
this time around we've we've made all

832
00:45:22,370 --> 00:45:19,380
the forecasting we know we see the news

833
00:45:24,980 --> 00:45:22,380
reports we know what's coming and we're

834
00:45:27,500 --> 00:45:24,990
able to brace for it and I think that's

835
00:45:31,010 --> 00:45:27,510
that's a big difference this time around

836
00:45:34,250 --> 00:45:31,020
not only emotionally but the way that we

837
00:45:40,099 --> 00:45:34,260
will that we will deal with it with the

838
00:45:42,230 --> 00:45:40,109
logistics side right well we we have to

839
00:45:44,270 --> 00:45:42,240
deal with the logistics side on an

840
00:45:47,120 --> 00:45:44,280
international basis like right now

841
00:45:50,020 --> 00:45:47,130
the virus is beginning to really spread

842
00:45:54,720 --> 00:45:50,030
in India Russia and

843
00:45:56,910 --> 00:45:54,730
Brazil and none of these countries are

844
00:46:00,040 --> 00:45:56,920
able to handle it

845
00:46:02,410 --> 00:46:00,050
none of them Russia included Russia is

846
00:46:04,540 --> 00:46:02,420
basically a third world country with a

847
00:46:11,260 --> 00:46:04,550
couple of first world cities tacked on

848
00:46:14,800 --> 00:46:11,270
st. Petersburg and Moscow and India most

849
00:46:16,900 --> 00:46:14,810
people in India live in a single room

850
00:46:19,300 --> 00:46:16,910
and most families have of the average

851
00:46:22,870 --> 00:46:19,310
family as five members the average home

852
00:46:25,020 --> 00:46:22,880
is one room you know something like this

853
00:46:27,849 --> 00:46:25,030
gets out of hand in a place like that

854
00:46:31,960 --> 00:46:27,859
that's that's gonna be an extraordinary

855
00:46:34,150 --> 00:46:31,970
human catastrophe and the in Brazil

856
00:46:36,839 --> 00:46:34,160
right now it's it Brazil is a little

857
00:46:38,980 --> 00:46:36,849
wealthier country than India per capita

858
00:46:42,160 --> 00:46:38,990
but it's still spreading very rapidly

859
00:46:44,440 --> 00:46:42,170
because something like 80 percent of a

860
00:46:48,160 --> 00:46:44,450
very high percentage of the brazilian

861
00:46:50,849 --> 00:46:48,170
population live below the poverty level

862
00:46:53,470 --> 00:46:50,859
and the definition of poverty is

863
00:46:56,829 --> 00:46:53,480
unbelievably low in those countries

864
00:46:59,650 --> 00:46:56,839
mm-hmm you know we a person who's living

865
00:47:02,230 --> 00:46:59,660
it it the u.s. definition of the poverty

866
00:47:07,980 --> 00:47:02,240
level would be rich in many countries of

867
00:47:11,920 --> 00:47:07,990
the world now how does this very

868
00:47:13,780 --> 00:47:11,930
tangible paradigm shift because we all

869
00:47:18,690 --> 00:47:13,790
know it not only from an economic

870
00:47:21,579 --> 00:47:18,700
standpoint but from a realization that

871
00:47:24,430 --> 00:47:21,589
we mentioned this earlier there are no

872
00:47:26,349 --> 00:47:24,440
borders right there we are all in this

873
00:47:28,780 --> 00:47:26,359
together right now this is a global

874
00:47:31,930 --> 00:47:28,790
situation and certainly everybody's been

875
00:47:35,020 --> 00:47:31,940
affected by it with the knowledge of

876
00:47:39,160 --> 00:47:35,030
this this paradigm shift that you can

877
00:47:42,940 --> 00:47:39,170
reach out and touch Whitley is aware

878
00:47:45,070 --> 00:47:42,950
everybody knows about it are we gonna

879
00:47:47,290 --> 00:47:45,080
have amnesia when all of this is done

880
00:47:50,530 --> 00:47:47,300
after we've been shaken and scared to

881
00:47:54,250 --> 00:47:50,540
our core or are we gonna rise up and and

882
00:47:57,599 --> 00:47:54,260
just be different well both things are

883
00:48:02,109 --> 00:47:57,609
gonna happen you can look back on past

884
00:48:04,039 --> 00:48:02,119
endemics to see well like the black

885
00:48:07,160 --> 00:48:04,049
death which was

886
00:48:09,289 --> 00:48:07,170
a really upsetting pandemic it it

887
00:48:12,890 --> 00:48:09,299
probably killed more than half of the

888
00:48:16,609 --> 00:48:12,900
population of Europe and of course in

889
00:48:18,949 --> 00:48:16,619
those days they had no idea what was

890
00:48:22,249 --> 00:48:18,959
going on they didn't even know what the

891
00:48:24,380 --> 00:48:22,259
human body really was isn't in in in the

892
00:48:28,239 --> 00:48:24,390
medieval period no idea at all

893
00:48:36,640 --> 00:48:31,390
afterwards the following things happened

894
00:48:39,349 --> 00:48:36,650
first the serf the population of serfs

895
00:48:41,929 --> 00:48:39,359
became a population of peasants in other

896
00:48:44,269 --> 00:48:41,939
words they began to demand more because

897
00:48:46,519 --> 00:48:44,279
there were fewer of them and if somebody

898
00:48:50,179 --> 00:48:46,529
wanted their farmland worked they were

899
00:48:53,179 --> 00:48:50,189
going to have to pay and so the feudal

900
00:48:56,839 --> 00:48:53,189
system began to break down which would

901
00:48:59,839 --> 00:48:56,849
lead inevitably to the Renaissance years

902
00:49:02,140 --> 00:48:59,849
but a long time later but there was the

903
00:49:10,160 --> 00:49:02,150
first real crack in the feudal system

904
00:49:13,359 --> 00:49:10,170
now go but within 25 or 30 years people

905
00:49:16,400 --> 00:49:13,369
weren't thinking about it anymore and

906
00:49:21,519 --> 00:49:16,410
another example more recently is the

907
00:49:23,870 --> 00:49:21,529
Spanish flu epidemic 1919 to 1922

908
00:49:28,640 --> 00:49:23,880
unbelievable numbers hundreds of

909
00:49:33,319 --> 00:49:28,650
millions of people died oh the world but

910
00:49:34,849 --> 00:49:33,329
by 1925 it was the roaring 20s and we

911
00:49:37,789 --> 00:49:34,859
had put it behind us

912
00:49:39,789 --> 00:49:37,799
we weren't thinking about it anymore we

913
00:49:43,249 --> 00:49:39,799
didn't really know how to prevent it I

914
00:49:46,939 --> 00:49:43,259
mean they their method of preventing it

915
00:49:48,949 --> 00:49:46,949
was cotton masks and that was it they

916
00:49:52,069 --> 00:49:48,959
had essentially no treatment for it

917
00:49:54,349 --> 00:49:52,079
whatsoever you if you got that flu you

918
00:49:57,049 --> 00:49:54,359
either lived you didn't and and that was

919
00:49:59,419 --> 00:49:57,059
it there you know they there was just

920
00:50:04,579 --> 00:49:59,429
all the treatments consisted of things

921
00:50:06,289 --> 00:50:04,589
like steam breathing steam and stuff but

922
00:50:09,169 --> 00:50:06,299
they forgot about it because they

923
00:50:10,880 --> 00:50:09,179
couldn't think about it we're not going

924
00:50:17,630 --> 00:50:10,890
to be that way this time

925
00:50:20,380 --> 00:50:17,640
we back in back in the about a year ago

926
00:50:24,650 --> 00:50:20,390
the administration made the decision to

927
00:50:26,509 --> 00:50:24,660
drop its pandemic taskforce on the

928
00:50:28,430 --> 00:50:26,519
theory that things like that are so

929
00:50:31,249 --> 00:50:28,440
unlikely that why should we spend the

930
00:50:33,319 --> 00:50:31,259
money on this task force and any number

931
00:50:36,680 --> 00:50:33,329
of I'm not blaming one administration or

932
00:50:38,089 --> 00:50:36,690
another anyone sailing a country through

933
00:50:39,769 --> 00:50:38,099
waters like this is going to make

934
00:50:44,630 --> 00:50:39,779
mistakes and that just you know you

935
00:50:46,249 --> 00:50:44,640
can't you can't be a it can't try to

936
00:50:49,579 --> 00:50:46,259
quarterback a thing like this you just

937
00:50:53,359 --> 00:50:49,589
have to hope that basically over all we

938
00:50:56,989 --> 00:50:53,369
do fine but in any case what we didn't

939
00:51:00,160 --> 00:50:56,999
understand was that this could an

940
00:51:03,289 --> 00:51:00,170
epidemic could move so quickly and

941
00:51:05,660 --> 00:51:03,299
things happened in December in January

942
00:51:07,549 --> 00:51:05,670
and you know no matter there's this big

943
00:51:11,900 --> 00:51:07,559
argument going on right now is China

944
00:51:14,299 --> 00:51:11,910
responsible or not and the Mike Pompeo

945
00:51:16,309 --> 00:51:14,309
and President Trump are saying yeah it

946
00:51:17,839 --> 00:51:16,319
came from a lab in China the

947
00:51:21,349 --> 00:51:17,849
intelligence community is saying it

948
00:51:23,509 --> 00:51:21,359
didn't so right now we have basically no

949
00:51:26,870 --> 00:51:23,519
idea what the truth is and we may never

950
00:51:29,569 --> 00:51:26,880
find out however one thing that we do

951
00:51:34,120 --> 00:51:29,579
know that was extensively reported was

952
00:51:38,569 --> 00:51:34,130
reported in the New York Times is that

953
00:51:42,859 --> 00:51:38,579
140,000 Chinese came as tourists to the

954
00:51:46,519 --> 00:51:42,869
United States and Canada in December

955
00:51:48,859 --> 00:51:46,529
after this virus was known to be a

956
00:51:51,829 --> 00:51:48,869
problem in China and a lot of them came

957
00:51:54,410 --> 00:51:51,839
from Wuhan no they weren't put on planes

958
00:51:56,479 --> 00:51:54,420
by a Sinister's Chinese government who

959
00:51:59,239 --> 00:51:56,489
said hey get it again take this over

960
00:52:01,430 --> 00:51:59,249
there they were the wealthy and they got

961
00:52:04,999 --> 00:52:01,440
out of there because they were afraid

962
00:52:07,190 --> 00:52:05,009
and they landed here on tourist visas I

963
00:52:10,160 --> 00:52:07,200
remember very well I live in Santa

964
00:52:13,759 --> 00:52:10,170
Monica and I walk every night and I was

965
00:52:16,099 --> 00:52:13,769
walking down on on on our bluff and I

966
00:52:20,420 --> 00:52:16,109
was amazed at all of the Chinese

967
00:52:22,640 --> 00:52:20,430
tourists so I thought to myself what is

968
00:52:24,680 --> 00:52:22,650
going on is this isn't the time of year

969
00:52:26,269 --> 00:52:24,690
they usually show up here and there's

970
00:52:28,190 --> 00:52:26,279
too many of them everybody every other

971
00:52:31,099 --> 00:52:28,200
person a couple walking past was

972
00:52:33,140 --> 00:52:31,109
speaking Chinese and so I

973
00:52:36,769 --> 00:52:33,150
into it and I saw that there was this

974
00:52:41,120 --> 00:52:36,779
virus reported in Wuhan and I

975
00:52:44,359 --> 00:52:41,130
immediately bought supplies right I

976
00:52:46,940 --> 00:52:44,369
bought gloves and masks and Lysol at all

977
00:52:50,569 --> 00:52:46,950
of it because I figured this is coming

978
00:52:52,549 --> 00:52:50,579
and you know we were blindsided by it

979
00:52:57,529 --> 00:52:52,559
anyway I mean I wasn't blindsided by it

980
00:53:00,019 --> 00:52:57,539
because you know I'm very I'm very doom

981
00:53:01,640 --> 00:53:00,029
conscious well you spend your life with

982
00:53:04,489 --> 00:53:01,650
the visitors and they're already they're

983
00:53:06,890 --> 00:53:04,499
always doing the doom and gloom thing

984
00:53:09,710 --> 00:53:06,900
well you did right super storm so let's

985
00:53:12,140 --> 00:53:09,720
not super storm I mean I'm this is my

986
00:53:14,450 --> 00:53:12,150
mindset right it's right their fault

987
00:53:16,880 --> 00:53:14,460
right it's my mindset I'm not going to

988
00:53:22,549 --> 00:53:16,890
blame them for my mindset although I

989
00:53:25,489 --> 00:53:22,559
think they have the same mindset well

990
00:53:27,289 --> 00:53:25,499
let me let me kind of set up for when we

991
00:53:32,930 --> 00:53:27,299
come back after the break

992
00:53:37,819 --> 00:53:32,940
and and it's this we have heard many

993
00:53:43,309 --> 00:53:37,829
many many times from you and others the

994
00:53:45,319 --> 00:53:43,319
very consistent message from our et

995
00:53:49,370 --> 00:53:45,329
brothers and sisters out there which is

996
00:53:50,960 --> 00:53:49,380
you guys ain't ready you guys need to

997
00:53:54,829 --> 00:53:50,970
make some changes you guys need to grow

998
00:53:57,079 --> 00:53:54,839
up you guys need to you know go back to

999
00:53:58,370 --> 00:53:57,089
your room and and stay there for a while

1000
00:54:00,499 --> 00:53:58,380
you're grounded

1001
00:54:02,450 --> 00:54:00,509
well look right and I sick and tired of

1002
00:54:04,640 --> 00:54:02,460
that carping but I'm very well aware of

1003
00:54:06,319 --> 00:54:04,650
it dense right that's right and I happen

1004
00:54:08,239 --> 00:54:06,329
to have a better opinion of us than that

1005
00:54:11,799 --> 00:54:08,249
and that's talk about that when we come

1006
00:54:16,940 --> 00:54:11,809
back exactly and is this something that

1007
00:54:19,849 --> 00:54:16,950
is you know our reaction to how we treat

1008
00:54:24,109 --> 00:54:19,859
each other through this crisis is this

1009
00:54:26,900 --> 00:54:24,119
something that is being observed oh well

1010
00:54:30,109 --> 00:54:26,910
yeah I mean I've been heavily involved

1011
00:54:32,960 --> 00:54:30,119
in that and I know I've learned a lot of

1012
00:54:35,569 --> 00:54:32,970
things I am NOT going to say that they

1013
00:54:38,450 --> 00:54:35,579
told me because that is not how it works

1014
00:54:43,089 --> 00:54:38,460
but I have this implant in my ear I know

1015
00:54:45,880 --> 00:54:43,099
how to use it and I have used it

1016
00:54:48,699 --> 00:54:45,890
to gain insight into this and I think

1017
00:54:53,170 --> 00:54:48,709
I've gained some strong useful valuable

1018
00:54:56,469 --> 00:54:53,180
insight it's nowhere near it's not off

1019
00:54:57,759 --> 00:54:56,479
the wall at all it's very solid and we

1020
00:55:01,599 --> 00:54:57,769
can get into that because I've

1021
00:55:06,609 --> 00:55:01,609
researched it very deeply and there are

1022
00:55:09,039 --> 00:55:06,619
ways of fixing this are and in fact go

1023
00:55:11,289 --> 00:55:09,049
ahead know if that was my question is

1024
00:55:15,359 --> 00:55:11,299
have you been sharing what you've

1025
00:55:18,910 --> 00:55:15,369
learned well yeah on my website and with

1026
00:55:22,539 --> 00:55:18,920
some medical people I know or who are

1027
00:55:24,640 --> 00:55:22,549
doing research in this area yes and they

1028
00:55:26,109 --> 00:55:24,650
know perfectly well that the information

1029
00:55:27,999 --> 00:55:26,119
is coming the source of the information

1030
00:55:30,880 --> 00:55:28,009
and they're fine with that they'll use

1031
00:55:33,279 --> 00:55:30,890
it or not use it as they see fit but you

1032
00:55:35,319 --> 00:55:33,289
know the last two blog entries are

1033
00:55:38,829 --> 00:55:35,329
basically a reflection of what I learned

1034
00:55:40,989 --> 00:55:38,839
now somebody just unknown country in

1035
00:55:43,120 --> 00:55:40,999
Quigley's Journal somebody just tweeted

1036
00:55:43,749 --> 00:55:43,130
and I wanted to share this with you hey

1037
00:55:46,449 --> 00:55:43,759
Jimmy

1038
00:55:50,109 --> 00:55:46,459
please think Whitley for his dreamland

1039
00:55:54,719 --> 00:55:50,119
meditations so oh yeah I do that every

1040
00:55:59,199 --> 00:55:54,729
Thursday night live free on YouTube and

1041
00:56:02,650 --> 00:55:59,209
it's a meditation designed to calm you

1042
00:56:05,559 --> 00:56:02,660
and strengthen you from within and it's

1043
00:56:09,489 --> 00:56:05,569
good it works well a lot of people are

1044
00:56:11,799 --> 00:56:09,499
benefiting from it do you uh I'm not

1045
00:56:16,479 --> 00:56:11,809
making light because I do it do you burn

1046
00:56:19,959 --> 00:56:16,489
sage candles do that sort of thing no

1047
00:56:22,989 --> 00:56:19,969
I'm much too dangerous with fire I've

1048
00:56:24,459 --> 00:56:22,999
any any like to burn sage but she

1049
00:56:27,430 --> 00:56:24,469
wouldn't let me near it because she said

1050
00:56:29,620 --> 00:56:27,440
quickly everything you touch turns the

1051
00:56:32,069 --> 00:56:29,630
sage falls apart the rug catches on fire

1052
00:56:35,920 --> 00:56:32,079
it's too dangerous

1053
00:56:39,189 --> 00:56:35,930
right so no I don't it's not I don't

1054
00:56:42,969 --> 00:56:39,199
feel a need to I feel I feel very

1055
00:56:48,849 --> 00:56:42,979
I don't feel necessarily protected but I

1056
00:56:51,489 --> 00:56:48,859
feel very much at peace with my my life

1057
00:56:53,829 --> 00:56:51,499
in other words if I get this I get it

1058
00:56:55,599 --> 00:56:53,839
I'm not going to go out and look for it

1059
00:56:56,440 --> 00:56:55,609
right but if I get it then I'm gonna

1060
00:56:59,860 --> 00:56:56,450
live with

1061
00:57:03,790 --> 00:56:59,870
or not depending on what happens but I'm

1062
00:57:07,360 --> 00:57:03,800
not gonna I'm not and in terms of

1063
00:57:09,370 --> 00:57:07,370
protecting myself against this the the

1064
00:57:11,110 --> 00:57:09,380
other level of reality I believe with it

1065
00:57:14,650 --> 00:57:11,120
all the time in my life it's in my life

1066
00:57:17,020 --> 00:57:14,660
every day every night so no I don't feel

1067
00:57:20,410 --> 00:57:17,030
in the least a need to protect myself

1068
00:57:24,790 --> 00:57:20,420
you know it's part of my life and for me

1069
00:57:27,010 --> 00:57:24,800
I don't know the ceremony behind sage

1070
00:57:29,860 --> 00:57:27,020
there are plenty out there that do but I

1071
00:57:35,350 --> 00:57:29,870
don't I just like the smell of it and I

1072
00:57:39,760 --> 00:57:35,360
feel that I'm doing something right in

1073
00:57:42,100 --> 00:57:39,770
doing it nothing wrong with it clearly

1074
00:57:44,050 --> 00:57:42,110
wow it smells good not gonna it's not

1075
00:57:46,120 --> 00:57:44,060
it's it's not like vaping or something

1076
00:57:48,100 --> 00:57:46,130
it's nice yeah yeah exactly

1077
00:57:50,530 --> 00:57:48,110
well you know it's just like weed you

1078
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know I'll burn weed I don't smoke it but

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I'll just stink up the house with it I'm

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00:57:56,410 --> 00:57:55,070
just kidding Whitley just kidding that's

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00:58:03,100 --> 00:57:56,420
where you're supposed to insert the

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00:58:04,780 --> 00:58:03,110
courtesy laugh is our guest Whitley

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00:58:06,730 --> 00:58:04,790
let's take our break right here when we

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00:58:08,800 --> 00:58:06,740
come back we're gonna go straight to it

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00:58:11,590 --> 00:58:08,810
we're gonna start discussing the

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00:58:13,330 --> 00:58:11,600
visitors and I got a couple questions in

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00:58:14,950 --> 00:58:13,340
here that popped up in Twitter for

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00:58:16,960 --> 00:58:14,960
Whitley I'll get to those too as well

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00:58:19,630 --> 00:58:16,970
this is fade to black I'm your host

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00:58:22,480 --> 00:58:19,640
Jimmy church tonight Whitley Strieber on

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links are up in our twitter feed stay

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Kebbell you're listening to Jimmy Church

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all right welcome back fade to black I'm

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your host Jimmy Church I guess tonight

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01:03:47,230 --> 01:03:45,260
Whitley Strieber and right before the

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01:03:50,560 --> 01:03:47,240
break I want to pick up where we left

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01:03:52,960 --> 01:03:50,570
off and Whitley you mentioned the

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01:03:55,150 --> 01:03:52,970
implant and and so I want to get to the

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01:03:57,880 --> 01:03:55,160
foundation of the visitors for those out

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01:04:00,910 --> 01:03:57,890
there that may not know what we're about

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01:04:01,810 --> 01:04:00,920
to discuss but getting to the implant

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01:04:04,870 --> 01:04:01,820
really quick

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01:04:09,330 --> 01:04:04,880
Sarah just tweeted out she said can you

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01:04:14,680 --> 01:04:09,340
remind us again which ear the implant is

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01:04:18,550 --> 01:04:14,690
behind it's in my in the outer part of

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01:04:21,130 --> 01:04:18,560
my left ear in the tort just up just

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01:04:27,270 --> 01:04:21,140
above the top of the pinna which is the

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01:04:31,330 --> 01:04:27,280
outer part of the ear and it's been in

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01:04:33,130 --> 01:04:31,340
1994 at night it was put in in 1989 I

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01:04:35,230 --> 01:04:33,140
was awake when it happened I saw the

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01:04:37,540 --> 01:04:35,240
people that were not aliens they people

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01:04:39,930 --> 01:04:37,550
who came in and did it two of them a man

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01:04:44,170 --> 01:04:39,940
and a woman I could not stop them and

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01:04:46,990 --> 01:04:44,180
they did it and in 1994 there was an

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01:04:49,630 --> 01:04:47,000
attempt made to take it out when the

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01:04:56,020 --> 01:04:49,640
doctor Tut opened up a little a little

1223
01:04:59,230 --> 01:04:56,030
incision he saw a white disc and when he

1224
01:05:01,480 --> 01:04:59,240
touched it to try to pull it out it

1225
01:05:04,450 --> 01:05:01,490
moved on its own down into my earlobe

1226
01:05:05,190 --> 01:05:04,460
through under the skin and got away from

1227
01:05:11,440 --> 01:05:05,200
him

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01:05:13,140 --> 01:05:11,450
expecting that he as far as he was

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01:05:16,270 --> 01:05:13,150
concerned he was removing a cyst

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01:05:18,670 --> 01:05:16,280
he had not been fully informed I should

1231
01:05:19,120 --> 01:05:18,680
have perhaps been a little bit more open

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01:05:21,579 --> 01:05:19,130
with him

1233
01:05:23,050 --> 01:05:21,589
anyway he pulled out of course because

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01:05:24,310 --> 01:05:23,060
there's nothing you do he said mr.

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01:05:27,339 --> 01:05:24,320
Stuber I'm gonna have to take your ear

1236
01:05:31,210 --> 01:05:27,349
off I said well I we can't do that and

1237
01:05:33,339 --> 01:05:31,220
he sewed it up and two days later it

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01:05:37,990 --> 01:05:33,349
went back up into the place where it is

1239
01:05:40,480 --> 01:05:38,000
now a little nick of it was taken off as

1240
01:05:45,780 --> 01:05:40,490
it moved away from his scalpel and sent

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01:05:50,190 --> 01:05:45,790
to research laboratory and rather a

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01:05:53,609 --> 01:05:50,200
first to 2a

1243
01:05:55,739 --> 01:05:53,619
laughs a regular medical lab and they

1244
01:05:59,339 --> 01:05:55,749
observed that it had it was a metallic

1245
01:06:02,420 --> 01:05:59,349
base with what they described as

1246
01:06:05,130 --> 01:06:02,430
proteinaceous cilia coming out of it and

1247
01:06:09,239 --> 01:06:05,140
then it was taken to Southwest Research

1248
01:06:11,700 --> 01:06:09,249
and allegedly lost and I never heard

1249
01:06:14,819 --> 01:06:11,710
from about it again but the rest of it

1250
01:06:16,680 --> 01:06:14,829
came back and in the pet in the old days

1251
01:06:19,710 --> 01:06:16,690
every once awhile at my ear would turn

1252
01:06:21,720 --> 01:06:19,720
red and get very hot and it would be

1253
01:06:26,009 --> 01:06:21,730
apparently transmitting something and I

1254
01:06:28,710 --> 01:06:26,019
had no idea how to use it what it was

1255
01:06:30,420 --> 01:06:28,720
therefore I used to Annie used to say

1256
01:06:32,819 --> 01:06:30,430
it's not a probably not a tracking

1257
01:06:34,319 --> 01:06:32,829
device because nobody from our tourists

1258
01:06:36,299 --> 01:06:34,329
is going to care whether or not you're

1259
01:06:39,059 --> 01:06:36,309
heading down to the 7-eleven mm-hmm and

1260
01:06:43,200 --> 01:06:39,069
you know that's I couldn't agree with

1261
01:06:47,299 --> 01:06:43,210
more or more anyway in 2015 Annie passed

1262
01:06:50,670 --> 01:06:47,309
away and in India in August and in

1263
01:06:52,229 --> 01:06:50,680
October I began to notice there was a

1264
01:06:55,799 --> 01:06:52,239
sort of neatly

1265
01:06:59,099 --> 01:06:55,809
smeet slit in my right eye in the in my

1266
01:07:02,430 --> 01:06:59,109
field of vision and words were passing

1267
01:07:06,359 --> 01:07:02,440
through it very quickly quicker than I

1268
01:07:08,489 --> 01:07:06,369
could read them and over the years I

1269
01:07:13,019 --> 01:07:08,499
have learned how this works

1270
01:07:16,710 --> 01:07:13,029
it is a mnemonic device that means it

1271
01:07:19,950 --> 01:07:16,720
assists memory it is not a mind control

1272
01:07:24,269 --> 01:07:19,960
device what it does is it pulls things

1273
01:07:27,870 --> 01:07:24,279
up from inside my memory banks in my

1274
01:07:30,630 --> 01:07:27,880
mind that I would not have access to

1275
01:07:33,890 --> 01:07:30,640
it's like something that is a it

1276
01:07:38,400 --> 01:07:33,900
enhances the brain's filing system and

1277
01:07:41,940 --> 01:07:38,410
the result what has been I began to

1278
01:07:45,809 --> 01:07:41,950
figure it out in September October of

1279
01:07:48,390 --> 01:07:45,819
2015 and I started writing a historical

1280
01:07:53,819 --> 01:07:48,400
model which is called in Hitler's house

1281
01:07:57,329 --> 01:07:53,829
and I used the implant I practiced and I

1282
01:08:01,319 --> 01:07:57,339
used the implant to find out all kinds

1283
01:08:03,870 --> 01:08:01,329
of unbelievably obscure details about

1284
01:08:07,170 --> 01:08:03,880
Hitler and his his life

1285
01:08:09,529 --> 01:08:07,180
and the novel was written by a person

1286
01:08:12,150 --> 01:08:09,539
who was close to him and becomes

1287
01:08:15,990 --> 01:08:12,160
realizes he's evil and becomes a spy for

1288
01:08:18,360 --> 01:08:16,000
the Allies and but but lives actually

1289
01:08:21,390 --> 01:08:18,370
lives with Hitler as a close friend of

1290
01:08:24,300 --> 01:08:21,400
Hitler's that's the idea of the novel

1291
01:08:27,300 --> 01:08:24,310
but you in order to do that he's got to

1292
01:08:29,370 --> 01:08:27,310
be able to be writing a memoir which is

1293
01:08:32,820 --> 01:08:29,380
the book he's writing a memoir said in

1294
01:08:35,129 --> 01:08:32,830
the 1970s but he has to write it it has

1295
01:08:37,800 --> 01:08:35,139
to sound like someone who actually lived

1296
01:08:40,439 --> 01:08:37,810
in that period not just a lot of

1297
01:08:44,550 --> 01:08:40,449
historical research but the the texture

1298
01:08:46,829 --> 01:08:44,560
of life has to be immediate and it is in

1299
01:08:48,090 --> 01:08:46,839
the book it is a lot of the reviewers

1300
01:08:50,309 --> 01:08:48,100
will say it's like reading something

1301
01:08:54,240 --> 01:08:50,319
from somebody who was really there and

1302
01:08:56,999 --> 01:08:54,250
that's how the implant works now more

1303
01:09:01,379 --> 01:08:57,009
recently I began to do more serious

1304
01:09:04,399 --> 01:09:01,389
research with it and I use it in the

1305
01:09:07,530 --> 01:09:04,409
research for a new world my new book and

1306
01:09:13,829 --> 01:09:07,540
I used it with the way you you ask

1307
01:09:17,640 --> 01:09:13,839
yourself questions and the answers kind

1308
01:09:19,379 --> 01:09:17,650
of fall together it's really interesting

1309
01:09:21,360 --> 01:09:19,389
the way it works it doesn't tell you

1310
01:09:23,399 --> 01:09:21,370
thing it's not giving you instructions

1311
01:09:25,379 --> 01:09:23,409
in other words it's not interrupting

1312
01:09:27,809 --> 01:09:25,389
your independence or your freedom of

1313
01:09:30,240 --> 01:09:27,819
thought or your freedom of will but it

1314
01:09:34,590 --> 01:09:30,250
is helping you make those things work

1315
01:09:36,360 --> 01:09:34,600
better that's how it works and the the

1316
01:09:39,629 --> 01:09:36,370
visitors which we've discussed many

1317
01:09:44,160 --> 01:09:39,639
times on this program but as we move

1318
01:09:47,010 --> 01:09:44,170
forward tonight who are they that's an

1319
01:09:51,120 --> 01:09:47,020
easy question to answer I have no idea

1320
01:09:53,099 --> 01:09:51,130
no I I mean people want to say they want

1321
01:09:55,530 --> 01:09:53,109
it like something to wrap their

1322
01:09:57,899 --> 01:09:55,540
imaginations around I understand that

1323
01:10:00,209 --> 01:09:57,909
they want to wrap their imaginations

1324
01:10:02,310 --> 01:10:00,219
around this mystery and think to

1325
01:10:05,520 --> 01:10:02,320
themselves well it's these are beings

1326
01:10:06,959 --> 01:10:05,530
from some planet somewhere that someone

1327
01:10:09,270 --> 01:10:06,969
said they channeled them and they

1328
01:10:12,540 --> 01:10:09,280
they're from this planet or that planet

1329
01:10:16,080 --> 01:10:12,550
and they named this and named that but

1330
01:10:17,680 --> 01:10:16,090
that's not how it works something is

1331
01:10:20,709 --> 01:10:17,690
going on here that's extra

1332
01:10:22,660 --> 01:10:20,719
Neri it has as much to do with us as it

1333
01:10:23,680 --> 01:10:22,670
does with them but I'll tell you

1334
01:10:26,620 --> 01:10:23,690
something about it

1335
01:10:30,250 --> 01:10:26,630
that's fascinating if you look back over

1336
01:10:32,850 --> 01:10:30,260
the lore of the fairy folk and the gods

1337
01:10:35,640 --> 01:10:32,860
and the jinn and all that stuff from

1338
01:10:39,100 --> 01:10:35,650
going back into the mists of the past

1339
01:10:42,790 --> 01:10:39,110
you will find an awful lot of that lore

1340
01:10:45,550 --> 01:10:42,800
is very much like the UFO close

1341
01:10:49,540 --> 01:10:45,560
encounter and abduction lore very much

1342
01:10:56,170 --> 01:10:49,550
and if you look at the way this worked

1343
01:10:59,260 --> 01:10:56,180
it was kind of kind of knocking along in

1344
01:11:00,760 --> 01:10:59,270
the in the it is reached a sort of peak

1345
01:11:03,520 --> 01:11:00,770
in the nineteenth century but then

1346
01:11:05,950 --> 01:11:03,530
people became more educated and they

1347
01:11:08,410 --> 01:11:05,960
began to think that well this stuff

1348
01:11:10,840 --> 01:11:08,420
about these little beings can't be true

1349
01:11:13,990 --> 01:11:10,850
and yeah there were some hoaxes some

1350
01:11:15,490 --> 01:11:14,000
famous hoaxes that that sort of put the

1351
01:11:19,209 --> 01:11:15,500
kibosh on the whole thing and it was

1352
01:11:24,810 --> 01:11:19,219
kind of forgotten then we began to have

1353
01:11:27,580 --> 01:11:24,820
these Wars and during World War two

1354
01:11:30,580 --> 01:11:27,590
these strange lights that were called

1355
01:11:33,340 --> 01:11:30,590
Foo Fighters began showing up in over

1356
01:11:36,610 --> 01:11:33,350
Germany and being observed by the Allies

1357
01:11:38,560 --> 01:11:36,620
and after the war it became clear that

1358
01:11:41,410 --> 01:11:38,570
they were not a German secret weapon

1359
01:11:47,080 --> 01:11:41,420
that they were something unknown then we

1360
01:11:50,500 --> 01:11:47,090
dropped the atomic bomb and in 1947 all

1361
01:11:52,180 --> 01:11:50,510
of a sudden this same presence that had

1362
01:11:56,590 --> 01:11:52,190
actually probably been with us from the

1363
01:12:02,430 --> 01:11:56,600
beginning of time ramped up and became a

1364
01:12:06,720 --> 01:12:02,440
huge what it is now a huge worldwide

1365
01:12:11,140 --> 01:12:06,730
phenomenon and an incredible mystery and

1366
01:12:14,229 --> 01:12:11,150
that we know there is someone there

1367
01:12:17,470 --> 01:12:14,239
and that's where we are and I think they

1368
01:12:19,780 --> 01:12:17,480
ramped this up because they began to

1369
01:12:22,330 --> 01:12:19,790
think we were in some kind of trouble I

1370
01:12:24,100 --> 01:12:22,340
mean we're dropping a bomb is on each

1371
01:12:26,979 --> 01:12:24,110
other we're killing millions and

1372
01:12:28,900 --> 01:12:26,989
millions of our young people in these

1373
01:12:31,030 --> 01:12:28,910
wars of course there's something wrong

1374
01:12:34,210 --> 01:12:31,040
right and I

1375
01:12:36,550 --> 01:12:34,220
think they're concerned now very

1376
01:12:39,010 --> 01:12:36,560
concerned and and to be clear the other

1377
01:12:42,040 --> 01:12:39,020
interesting part about this maybe even

1378
01:12:43,840 --> 01:12:42,050
the most most interesting part is that

1379
01:12:46,980 --> 01:12:43,850
the Germans were observing the Foo

1380
01:12:48,190 --> 01:12:46,990
Fighters - and they thought it was us

1381
01:12:50,940 --> 01:12:48,200
right

1382
01:12:53,680 --> 01:12:50,950
no there's there's been there's been

1383
01:12:55,990 --> 01:12:53,690
it's been proved that the amount of

1384
01:12:59,140 --> 01:12:56,000
energy that was being put out by that

1385
01:13:01,180 --> 01:12:59,150
light could not have been been anything

1386
01:13:02,620 --> 01:13:01,190
that could be built at that time by

1387
01:13:04,860 --> 01:13:02,630
either side and this business about

1388
01:13:07,320 --> 01:13:04,870
German flying saucers and so forth is

1389
01:13:12,100 --> 01:13:07,330
interesting entertainment but that's all

1390
01:13:15,430 --> 01:13:12,110
the there's another point to this that I

1391
01:13:17,890 --> 01:13:15,440
need to touch upon not only for myself

1392
01:13:22,810 --> 01:13:17,900
but for the audience because I've heard

1393
01:13:26,560 --> 01:13:22,820
you reference and speak about this for

1394
01:13:29,680 --> 01:13:26,570
so long now that I've gone through a few

1395
01:13:35,680 --> 01:13:29,690
different visions of my own about who

1396
01:13:39,970 --> 01:13:35,690
the visitors are and going back to the

1397
01:13:42,970 --> 01:13:39,980
the little blue beings right and the

1398
01:13:45,040 --> 01:13:42,980
possibility of who they were and and

1399
01:13:47,170 --> 01:13:45,050
maybe they were us maybe another

1400
01:13:50,950 --> 01:13:47,180
dimension maybe it's after death there

1401
01:13:53,560 --> 01:13:50,960
was that element of it and then I often

1402
01:13:56,320 --> 01:13:53,570
thought about a situation like maybe the

1403
01:14:00,490 --> 01:13:56,330
movie phantasm right which is a horror

1404
01:14:04,210 --> 01:14:00,500
flick sure but the but the little beings

1405
01:14:07,510 --> 01:14:04,220
in that movie were from the other side

1406
01:14:12,880 --> 01:14:07,520
from another dimension and and I always

1407
01:14:14,380 --> 01:14:12,890
equated you know that am i I resolved it

1408
01:14:17,890 --> 01:14:14,390
in my own mind's eye that maybe

1409
01:14:22,630 --> 01:14:17,900
Whitley's right here and then going into

1410
01:14:25,570 --> 01:14:22,640
the visitors are we talking about is

1411
01:14:28,240 --> 01:14:25,580
this the same the the blue beings of

1412
01:14:31,300 --> 01:14:28,250
visitors is it something physical from

1413
01:14:35,560 --> 01:14:31,310
another dimension and that is purely

1414
01:14:40,240 --> 01:14:38,110
I don't think it's you know I think it's

1415
01:14:42,460 --> 01:14:40,250
I think it's the most complicated thing

1416
01:14:44,500 --> 01:14:42,470
that's ever happens when I think sure I

1417
01:14:48,730 --> 01:14:44,510
think that there are a number of

1418
01:14:51,910 --> 01:14:48,740
elements involved in it and we make a

1419
01:14:53,770 --> 01:14:51,920
big mistake and by assuming that all of

1420
01:14:56,680 --> 01:14:53,780
this strange stuff is has the same

1421
01:14:59,410 --> 01:14:56,690
origin somehow our is the same thing it

1422
01:15:01,510 --> 01:14:59,420
isn't right I think that our own dead to

1423
01:15:04,150 --> 01:15:01,520
play a huge role in this

1424
01:15:07,990 --> 01:15:04,160
I know Annie does in my life and in the

1425
01:15:11,530 --> 01:15:08,000
lives of many other people and she is a

1426
01:15:16,300 --> 01:15:11,540
she is of real presence and force in my

1427
01:15:18,640 --> 01:15:16,310
life to this day and not only her but

1428
01:15:22,720 --> 01:15:18,650
many people from the other side she's

1429
01:15:25,960 --> 01:15:22,730
she has her ability to communicate with

1430
01:15:27,820 --> 01:15:25,970
me and to convince me very skillfully

1431
01:15:31,930 --> 01:15:27,830
that it really was her and that's all in

1432
01:15:33,850 --> 01:15:31,940
the book afterlife revolution opened the

1433
01:15:36,810 --> 01:15:33,860
door because now I know that's possible

1434
01:15:40,990 --> 01:15:36,820
I and therefore there's others as well

1435
01:15:42,970 --> 01:15:41,000
and the oh by the way I'm gonna say

1436
01:15:44,230 --> 01:15:42,980
something here people are thinking but

1437
01:15:47,170 --> 01:15:44,240
why don't they tell you what's gonna

1438
01:15:50,410 --> 01:15:47,180
happen to us and Annie said a very

1439
01:15:55,510 --> 01:15:50,420
interesting thing to me right after she

1440
01:15:58,840 --> 01:15:55,520
died when I was really communicating her

1441
01:16:01,990 --> 01:15:58,850
with her very fully that two things one

1442
01:16:06,760 --> 01:16:02,000
is that she said it looks like you're

1443
01:16:11,140 --> 01:16:06,770
all intentionally ignoring us and she

1444
01:16:15,070 --> 01:16:11,150
also said we do tell you what we know of

1445
01:16:17,380 --> 01:16:15,080
the future but you can't hear us and I

1446
01:16:20,710 --> 01:16:17,390
think those are true statements both of

1447
01:16:25,030 --> 01:16:20,720
them because we're here living in the

1448
01:16:27,250 --> 01:16:25,040
timestream we are living in time and

1449
01:16:29,860 --> 01:16:27,260
we're not meant to live outside of time

1450
01:16:31,960 --> 01:16:29,870
and when we try to do that and to peek

1451
01:16:34,090 --> 01:16:31,970
at the future you don't know what you

1452
01:16:36,580 --> 01:16:34,100
may see you may see your own imagination

1453
01:16:39,090 --> 01:16:36,590
you may see something real you can't

1454
01:16:41,620 --> 01:16:39,100
tell because that's not how we're made

1455
01:16:43,630 --> 01:16:41,630
so they may be telling us everything

1456
01:16:47,910 --> 01:16:43,640
that we want to know but we can't hear

1457
01:16:51,399 --> 01:16:47,920
them because of what we are ok so

1458
01:16:54,970 --> 01:16:51,409
exactly so back to the process here yeah

1459
01:16:58,120 --> 01:16:54,980
okay there's so our dead are involved in

1460
01:17:00,070 --> 01:16:58,130
this and they have been forever but

1461
01:17:03,430 --> 01:17:00,080
we're just now beginning to realize that

1462
01:17:06,010 --> 01:17:03,440
it's real and it's quantifiable and it's

1463
01:17:08,979 --> 01:17:06,020
it's something that's part of the

1464
01:17:11,290 --> 01:17:08,989
universe they are there is an afterlife

1465
01:17:13,750 --> 01:17:11,300
and there are are people living in it

1466
01:17:15,610 --> 01:17:13,760
and they are very very different from

1467
01:17:19,260 --> 01:17:15,620
what they were when they were alive make

1468
01:17:23,590 --> 01:17:19,270
no mistake about that - there are

1469
01:17:27,520 --> 01:17:23,600
apparently aliens here - I think that

1470
01:17:29,560 --> 01:17:27,530
they don't have the same veil between

1471
01:17:32,680 --> 01:17:29,570
the worlds that we do I do not think

1472
01:17:35,950 --> 01:17:32,690
that they are as attached to time as we

1473
01:17:37,540 --> 01:17:35,960
are I think they are living looking into

1474
01:17:39,820 --> 01:17:37,550
time from the outside

1475
01:17:42,240 --> 01:17:39,830
much like our dead do but they have

1476
01:17:45,280 --> 01:17:42,250
bodies that and or can have if they wish

1477
01:17:48,970 --> 01:17:45,290
physical bodies that will flow in time

1478
01:17:51,280 --> 01:17:48,980
like we do and then there are other

1479
01:17:53,979 --> 01:17:51,290
entities I think there are entities that

1480
01:17:57,220 --> 01:17:53,989
are spiritual entities that are not

1481
01:18:01,660 --> 01:17:57,230
human that are above that and below that

1482
01:18:03,939 --> 01:18:01,670
level - I think that also that and this

1483
01:18:08,740 --> 01:18:03,949
is one of the most extraordinary things

1484
01:18:11,290 --> 01:18:08,750
that's happened I last summer I was at

1485
01:18:14,379 --> 01:18:11,300
the Lakota Sioux Reservation in Pine

1486
01:18:18,160 --> 01:18:14,389
Ridge and I found myself over the three

1487
01:18:22,030 --> 01:18:18,170
days I was there when I closed my eyes I

1488
01:18:25,540 --> 01:18:22,040
was seeing into another version of the

1489
01:18:29,050 --> 01:18:25,550
same place it was totally clear I mean I

1490
01:18:33,669 --> 01:18:29,060
could I could lean down at the on a

1491
01:18:38,410 --> 01:18:33,679
sidewalk or on in the grass and close my

1492
01:18:41,350 --> 01:18:38,420
eyes and see another detailed version of

1493
01:18:44,110 --> 01:18:41,360
what I was looking at with slightly

1494
01:18:46,390 --> 01:18:44,120
different stones and flowers and things

1495
01:18:50,229 --> 01:18:46,400
and then opened my eyes and I would see

1496
01:18:52,660 --> 01:18:50,239
this world again it was and when I was

1497
01:18:56,500 --> 01:18:52,670
driving riding I didn't drive I was

1498
01:18:59,229 --> 01:18:56,510
driven around the the roads were nicely

1499
01:19:00,470 --> 01:18:59,239
graded they were modern highways there

1500
01:19:03,710 --> 01:19:00,480
was one on one Road and

1501
01:19:05,690 --> 01:19:03,720
was very nicely done and you know we

1502
01:19:08,780 --> 01:19:05,700
were driving along it but with I closed

1503
01:19:11,810 --> 01:19:08,790
my eyes that road disappeared and I saw

1504
01:19:15,880 --> 01:19:11,820
instead an older road that went that

1505
01:19:19,310 --> 01:19:15,890
went along a track and in and when it

1506
01:19:21,470 --> 01:19:19,320
when we got to a hillside the new road

1507
01:19:23,540 --> 01:19:21,480
was graded right across it you just went

1508
01:19:25,400 --> 01:19:23,550
over it with in a straight line but the

1509
01:19:28,700 --> 01:19:25,410
old road followed the contours of the

1510
01:19:32,270 --> 01:19:28,710
land so it felt like the car was flying

1511
01:19:34,820 --> 01:19:32,280
and it would taken flight because it

1512
01:19:36,790 --> 01:19:34,830
felt like it had left the road and it

1513
01:19:40,370 --> 01:19:36,800
went on for three days and three nights

1514
01:19:43,790 --> 01:19:40,380
and I was left thinking I was seeing a

1515
01:19:49,610 --> 01:19:43,800
parallel universe right right now what

1516
01:19:54,610 --> 01:19:49,620
do I see on the cover of the April 11 to

1517
01:19:58,490 --> 01:19:54,620
17th New Scientist our cosmic lost twin

1518
01:20:03,320 --> 01:19:58,500
the Big Bang didn't make one universe it

1519
01:20:08,000 --> 01:20:03,330
made two it has been pretty well proved

1520
01:20:12,320 --> 01:20:08,010
that this other universe exists right

1521
01:20:15,200 --> 01:20:12,330
here right now and that amazing I think

1522
01:20:16,940 --> 01:20:15,210
that's extraordinary yeah and so there's

1523
01:20:20,000 --> 01:20:16,950
gonna be people who know how to cross

1524
01:20:23,840 --> 01:20:20,010
back and forth right or all by accident

1525
01:20:25,940 --> 01:20:23,850
or by accident too as well well like in

1526
01:20:31,520 --> 01:20:25,950
the book I mentioned these two children

1527
01:20:34,390 --> 01:20:31,530
who showed up in medieval England and

1528
01:20:37,970 --> 01:20:34,400
they were clearly I mean the

1529
01:20:40,700 --> 01:20:37,980
descriptions that that they left behind

1530
01:20:45,560 --> 01:20:40,710
of the world they had come from was the

1531
01:20:48,410 --> 01:20:45,570
world I saw every detail is there it and

1532
01:20:51,170 --> 01:20:48,420
even it was for example the light wasn't

1533
01:20:54,590 --> 01:20:51,180
as strong in that world that is

1534
01:20:58,460 --> 01:20:54,600
explainable scientifically physicists

1535
01:21:00,650 --> 01:20:58,470
would expect that from what we

1536
01:21:05,060 --> 01:21:00,660
understand about what this world must be

1537
01:21:06,920 --> 01:21:05,070
now we know it's there they probably

1538
01:21:09,800 --> 01:21:06,930
know that we're here

1539
01:21:11,540 --> 01:21:09,810
so will the Twain ever meet is there

1540
01:21:14,479 --> 01:21:11,550
going to be a door opening between the

1541
01:21:17,959 --> 01:21:14,489
worlds or is that already true

1542
01:21:21,919 --> 01:21:17,969
do you think that that is possibly what

1543
01:21:23,959 --> 01:21:21,929
the implant is for no I don't I think

1544
01:21:27,049 --> 01:21:23,969
the implant was put in by a man named

1545
01:21:30,350 --> 01:21:27,059
Constantine rod Ave and I will tell you

1546
01:21:33,919 --> 01:21:30,360
a little bit about that constant first

1547
01:21:36,580 --> 01:21:33,929
of all why do I think that okay a doctor

1548
01:21:41,810 --> 01:21:36,590
works very seriously on this business

1549
01:21:44,839 --> 01:21:41,820
he's was wanting me to get a CT scan of

1550
01:21:47,779 --> 01:21:44,849
the implant and over the years various

1551
01:21:49,850 --> 01:21:47,789
doctors and in organizations that take

1552
01:21:50,569 --> 01:21:49,860
this stuff seriously and have reason to

1553
01:21:53,569 --> 01:21:50,579
do so

1554
01:21:56,209 --> 01:21:53,579
have wanted to get their hands on that

1555
01:21:58,069 --> 01:21:56,219
implant obviously I've been a little

1556
01:22:00,439 --> 01:21:58,079
hesitant about getting rid of it getting

1557
01:22:02,689 --> 01:22:00,449
it out because Annie who's I trusted

1558
01:22:06,020 --> 01:22:02,699
with my soul is the wisest person I ever

1559
01:22:10,310 --> 01:22:06,030
knew always said Whitley don't take it

1560
01:22:12,379 --> 01:22:10,320
out learn it is at one time I tried to

1561
01:22:15,049 --> 01:22:12,389
take it out we had agreed you will never

1562
01:22:17,149 --> 01:22:15,059
try this again I think she knew more

1563
01:22:19,459 --> 01:22:17,159
about this stuff than she was saying she

1564
01:22:21,529 --> 01:22:19,469
knew darn well it wasn't kind of come

1565
01:22:22,899 --> 01:22:21,539
out she was not worried about that

1566
01:22:29,029 --> 01:22:22,909
anyway

1567
01:22:31,370 --> 01:22:29,039
be that as it may I I took the cat scan

1568
01:22:36,169 --> 01:22:31,380
and but two days before I took the cat

1569
01:22:38,450 --> 01:22:36,179
scan of my ear the these came a knock at

1570
01:22:41,270 --> 01:22:38,460
the door at four o'clock in the morning

1571
01:22:42,830 --> 01:22:41,280
now do you not normally answer a knock

1572
01:22:45,890 --> 01:22:42,840
on the door for a clock in the morning

1573
01:22:48,020 --> 01:22:45,900
of course not neither do i but I did

1574
01:22:51,620 --> 01:22:48,030
answer this because I was already in an

1575
01:22:54,290 --> 01:22:51,630
altered state I opened the door and

1576
01:22:56,060 --> 01:22:54,300
there were two men there one of them I

1577
01:22:58,729 --> 01:22:56,070
have known a long time I've seen him

1578
01:23:02,049 --> 01:22:58,739
many times the other one I did not know

1579
01:23:04,790 --> 01:23:02,059
all right at least I don't remember and

1580
01:23:08,330 --> 01:23:04,800
I knew immediately this was an unusual

1581
01:23:10,370 --> 01:23:08,340
experience let me put it that way and I

1582
01:23:12,049 --> 01:23:10,380
let them in of course because I wanted

1583
01:23:15,200 --> 01:23:12,059
the experience whatever it was going to

1584
01:23:17,450 --> 01:23:15,210
be especially if they took me to some

1585
01:23:18,169 --> 01:23:17,460
cool place like in a UFO but that did

1586
01:23:22,939 --> 01:23:18,179
not happen

1587
01:23:26,120 --> 01:23:22,949
sadly mm-hmm I let him in and they

1588
01:23:28,279 --> 01:23:26,130
proceeded to explain the implant to me

1589
01:23:29,959 --> 01:23:28,289
and how it had been made

1590
01:23:31,639 --> 01:23:29,969
and what it did when I was talking a

1591
01:23:33,979 --> 01:23:31,649
little bit earlier about it drawing

1592
01:23:35,839 --> 01:23:33,989
information from the sort of file system

1593
01:23:40,219 --> 01:23:35,849
in my brain that's who I learned it from

1594
01:23:44,059 --> 01:23:40,229
that night how it works and the young

1595
01:23:45,469 --> 01:23:44,069
man who was doing the talking said the

1596
01:23:47,299 --> 01:23:45,479
other one was probably there to beat me

1597
01:23:49,520 --> 01:23:47,309
up if I tried to do any any anything

1598
01:23:52,250 --> 01:23:49,530
anything any funny business they don't

1599
01:23:54,500 --> 01:23:52,260
trust me they know I'd steal the UFO and

1600
01:24:00,289 --> 01:23:54,510
a heartbeat if I got the chance and in

1601
01:24:02,389 --> 01:24:00,299
case he was explaining that this man

1602
01:24:07,279 --> 01:24:02,399
called Constantine raw dive he

1603
01:24:09,409 --> 01:24:07,289
pronounced it broad I've had devised

1604
01:24:11,449 --> 01:24:09,419
this thing it was a communicator between

1605
01:24:13,250 --> 01:24:11,459
the living and the dead which would

1606
01:24:15,349 --> 01:24:13,260
explain why it started to work so well

1607
01:24:17,439 --> 01:24:15,359
after any time because she was using it

1608
01:24:24,939 --> 01:24:17,449
on the other side it probably still is

1609
01:24:29,659 --> 01:24:24,949
so okay that happened and it ended and I

1610
01:24:32,000 --> 01:24:29,669
did not try anything I I was not able to

1611
01:24:34,459 --> 01:24:32,010
really move and we were sitting together

1612
01:24:36,500 --> 01:24:34,469
but I could not like get up and walk

1613
01:24:39,619 --> 01:24:36,510
across the room or anything like that it

1614
01:24:42,319 --> 01:24:39,629
was like a it was like I had sort of

1615
01:24:44,929 --> 01:24:42,329
local anaesthesia you know when you when

1616
01:24:46,729 --> 01:24:44,939
when you've had a spinal or something

1617
01:24:48,049 --> 01:24:46,739
and you can't move but you're fine

1618
01:24:50,989 --> 01:24:48,059
you're you're you know you're completely

1619
01:24:52,520 --> 01:24:50,999
alert and so forth and the you know the

1620
01:24:55,789 --> 01:24:52,530
doctors down there doing whatever he's

1621
01:24:59,659 --> 01:24:55,799
doing to your knee or whatever that was

1622
01:25:01,699 --> 01:24:59,669
how I was the state I was in but they

1623
01:25:03,319 --> 01:25:01,709
left in the state immediately wore off

1624
01:25:05,239 --> 01:25:03,329
it wasn't anesthesia it was something

1625
01:25:06,229 --> 01:25:05,249
else they were doing because the second

1626
01:25:08,089 --> 01:25:06,239
they were out of the house

1627
01:25:11,029 --> 01:25:08,099
it was over I rushed to the door they

1628
01:25:14,149 --> 01:25:11,039
were still gone so I immediately went

1629
01:25:15,829 --> 01:25:14,159
into my office and tried various

1630
01:25:18,079 --> 01:25:15,839
spellings of this name and I soon came

1631
01:25:20,929 --> 01:25:18,089
up as soon as this name looks so

1632
01:25:22,819 --> 01:25:20,939
familiar and I thought wait a minute he

1633
01:25:28,509 --> 01:25:22,829
was mispronouncing at this Constantine

1634
01:25:33,159 --> 01:25:28,519
Rada FA the famous EVP electronic voice

1635
01:25:35,270 --> 01:25:33,169
communications scientists who worked on

1636
01:25:38,359 --> 01:25:35,280
communicating electronically with the

1637
01:25:41,329 --> 01:25:38,369
dead during his lifetime and made some

1638
01:25:42,199 --> 01:25:41,339
extraordinary progress and I thought my

1639
01:25:45,620 --> 01:25:42,209
god

1640
01:25:47,569 --> 01:25:45,630
the guy is still doing it he's working

1641
01:25:52,549 --> 01:25:47,579
from the other side and that's what this

1642
01:25:54,679 --> 01:25:52,559
thing is wonderful extraordinary so I

1643
01:25:57,379 --> 01:25:54,689
was talking a few days and this is the

1644
01:26:01,819 --> 01:25:57,389
way this whole experience works and is

1645
01:26:05,629 --> 01:26:01,829
so fundamentally cool I was talking to a

1646
01:26:08,719 --> 01:26:05,639
friend who and I was telling him about

1647
01:26:10,279 --> 01:26:08,729
the slit in the eye and stuff and he

1648
01:26:11,959 --> 01:26:10,289
said well you know and this is the only

1649
01:26:15,759 --> 01:26:11,969
other person I know of who's ever said

1650
01:26:18,469 --> 01:26:15,769
this I have the same thing I said really

1651
01:26:20,870 --> 01:26:18,479
he said yeah it's been there for years

1652
01:26:22,279 --> 01:26:20,880
and it's words racing past I can't

1653
01:26:23,239 --> 01:26:22,289
really read them and I don't know quite

1654
01:26:26,179 --> 01:26:23,249
what it's about

1655
01:26:27,709 --> 01:26:26,189
I might have he says thinks he might

1656
01:26:30,589 --> 01:26:27,719
have an implant but there's no overt

1657
01:26:33,399 --> 01:26:30,599
evidence of it but here's the thing

1658
01:26:36,979 --> 01:26:33,409
about this man that's so extraordinary

1659
01:26:41,330 --> 01:26:36,989
he is an expert on Constantine Rada Bane

1660
01:26:43,969 --> 01:26:41,340
has made a big documentary about him so

1661
01:26:45,979 --> 01:26:43,979
you see what you're looking at you're

1662
01:26:49,129 --> 01:26:45,989
looking at technology that's coming into

1663
01:26:53,020 --> 01:26:49,139
our world from our own dead you're

1664
01:26:57,759 --> 01:26:53,030
looking at aliens I'll almost certainly

1665
01:27:02,589 --> 01:26:57,769
the tic-tac video is probably those are

1666
01:27:05,149 --> 01:27:02,599
aliens and there's some other video the

1667
01:27:07,339 --> 01:27:05,159
I've got a lot of video anyway here

1668
01:27:09,080 --> 01:27:07,349
that's probably authentic uf over

1669
01:27:12,890 --> 01:27:09,090
there's plenty of authentic UFO video

1670
01:27:17,679 --> 01:27:12,900
around they are real and my guess is at

1671
01:27:21,229 --> 01:27:17,689
least some of that is aliens you have

1672
01:27:25,429 --> 01:27:21,239
these beings like the dark blue figures

1673
01:27:29,359 --> 01:27:25,439
who I think or earth sweet creatures but

1674
01:27:31,189 --> 01:27:29,369
just radically different from us and you

1675
01:27:33,979 --> 01:27:31,199
have you have all kinds of stuff going

1676
01:27:36,469 --> 01:27:33,989
on I mean I think it's wonderful I think

1677
01:27:38,989 --> 01:27:36,479
it's absolutely fascinating not all of

1678
01:27:42,109 --> 01:27:38,999
its pretty that's for sure I mean I

1679
01:27:44,359 --> 01:27:42,119
gotten beat up plenty in this thing you

1680
01:27:46,640 --> 01:27:44,369
know I got that what I politely

1681
01:27:51,379 --> 01:27:46,650
described to my great misfortune is a

1682
01:27:54,540 --> 01:27:51,389
rectal probe in in in in December 26

1683
01:27:56,069 --> 01:27:54,550
1985 and became a laughingstock

1684
01:27:58,080 --> 01:27:56,079
having been raped tonight you know I

1685
01:27:59,580 --> 01:27:58,090
would go on TV and be laughed at about

1686
01:28:02,129 --> 01:27:59,590
that and then the next day go to the

1687
01:28:06,740 --> 01:28:02,139
doctor for treatment for the scar tissue

1688
01:28:12,450 --> 01:28:06,750
of the rape so no it's not all pretty

1689
01:28:15,479 --> 01:28:12,460
but it's definitely fascinating and

1690
01:28:18,270 --> 01:28:15,489
we're gonna take a quick break right

1691
01:28:21,290 --> 01:28:18,280
here Whitley and when we come back we'll

1692
01:28:24,959 --> 01:28:21,300
talk about how the communication and

1693
01:28:28,620 --> 01:28:24,969
translation has been happening with you

1694
01:28:30,450 --> 01:28:28,630
and and what you have found out this is

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fade to black I am your host Jimmy

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01:28:32,760 --> 01:28:31,929
Church our guest tonight Whitley

1697
01:28:35,760 --> 01:28:32,770
Strieber

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we're talking about the visitors what is

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01:28:41,700 --> 01:28:39,159
going on with us our planet and what are

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01:28:42,569 --> 01:28:41,710
we going through in the future this is

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way out here we listen to Jimmy Church

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[Applause]

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01:33:27,030 --> 01:33:26,020
welcome back fade to black and I am your

1784
01:33:28,080 --> 01:33:27,040
host Amy Church our guest tonight

1785
01:33:32,100 --> 01:33:28,090
Whitley Strieber

1786
01:33:35,280 --> 01:33:32,110
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staple since just about the beginning of

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should have the Internet today and I've

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been a part of it for so many years now

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I want to thank you Whitley for keeping

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01:34:17,490 --> 01:34:11,969
Church radio calm Whitley this this

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01:34:21,149 --> 01:34:17,500
communication as you now have become to

1801
01:34:24,390 --> 01:34:21,159
understand how to use this how how do

1802
01:34:27,630 --> 01:34:24,400
you initiate I'm very curious about that

1803
01:34:31,880 --> 01:34:27,640
I mean is it like a remote control on a

1804
01:34:38,250 --> 01:34:31,890
TV set is it that easy for you know

1805
01:34:42,020 --> 01:34:38,260
they're in as in as of September of 2015

1806
01:34:45,510 --> 01:34:42,030
a few weeks after Annie passed away

1807
01:34:47,130 --> 01:34:45,520
someone began waking me up at 3 o'clock

1808
01:34:50,850 --> 01:34:47,140
in the morning I've been doing something

1809
01:34:52,979 --> 01:34:50,860
called the sensing exercise since 1970 I

1810
01:34:56,130 --> 01:34:52,989
he learned it in in a group called the

1811
01:34:58,830 --> 01:34:56,140
gorgeous foundation based on it's a

1812
01:35:01,439 --> 01:34:58,840
group that works does interior work

1813
01:35:04,080 --> 01:35:01,449
based on the ideas of an Armenian mystic

1814
01:35:08,760 --> 01:35:04,090
called GR Gurdjieff who was an

1815
01:35:11,419 --> 01:35:08,770
extraordinary man and difficult man to

1816
01:35:14,729 --> 01:35:11,429
understand but he had a lot of wisdom

1817
01:35:17,040 --> 01:35:14,739
one of the things he believed was that

1818
01:35:20,810 --> 01:35:17,050
consciousness is not only in the brain

1819
01:35:23,399 --> 01:35:20,820
in the mind that we is not that

1820
01:35:25,890 --> 01:35:23,409
consciousness is in us we are in

1821
01:35:30,479 --> 01:35:25,900
consciousness and that the the body

1822
01:35:32,910 --> 01:35:30,489
itself is part of consciousness and this

1823
01:35:36,390 --> 01:35:32,920
exercise called the sensing exercises

1824
01:35:39,120 --> 01:35:36,400
very ancient he brought it to the West

1825
01:35:41,780 --> 01:35:39,130
and there's a sort of yoga where you

1826
01:35:45,060 --> 01:35:41,790
place your attention on your physical

1827
01:35:48,030 --> 01:35:45,070
sensation of your body and you hold it

1828
01:35:52,970 --> 01:35:48,040
there and you let your mind flew on its

1829
01:35:55,770 --> 01:35:52,980
own and after I after Annie passed away

1830
01:35:58,070 --> 01:35:55,780
the first thing that happened was I was

1831
01:36:01,830 --> 01:35:58,080
at a William Henry conference in

1832
01:36:06,390 --> 01:36:01,840
Nashville at the scarit Bennett Center

1833
01:36:07,709 --> 01:36:06,400
and a lady walked up to me and said Mr

1834
01:36:09,530 --> 01:36:07,719
Stryver the strangest thing just

1835
01:36:11,850 --> 01:36:09,540
happened Annie had been talking

1836
01:36:14,220 --> 01:36:11,860
communicating to me by talking to other

1837
01:36:16,890 --> 01:36:14,230
people so they would talk to me because

1838
01:36:21,030 --> 01:36:16,900
she knew I'm much too thick-headed to

1839
01:36:22,770 --> 01:36:21,040
believe that that it was her if she

1840
01:36:26,070 --> 01:36:22,780
talked directly to me I would think it

1841
01:36:27,660 --> 01:36:26,080
was my imagination in fact when she told

1842
01:36:29,220 --> 01:36:27,670
me to take out the garbage and do the

1843
01:36:31,950 --> 01:36:29,230
dishes and stuff I usually thought that

1844
01:36:33,890 --> 01:36:31,960
was my imagination when she was alive so

1845
01:36:36,540 --> 01:36:33,900
she was not wrong to do it this way

1846
01:36:38,550 --> 01:36:36,550
anyway the lady comes up and she says Mr

1847
01:36:41,340 --> 01:36:38,560
Stryver I just had that strangest thing

1848
01:36:42,689 --> 01:36:41,350
happened to me I heard your wife's voice

1849
01:36:44,700 --> 01:36:42,699
and she'd been to some of our

1850
01:36:46,800 --> 01:36:44,710
conferences so she knew exactly and

1851
01:36:50,700 --> 01:36:46,810
listened to us on the radio exactly what

1852
01:36:52,890 --> 01:36:50,710
I any sounded like say in my ear tell

1853
01:36:57,270 --> 01:36:52,900
Whitley that I can see him when he's

1854
01:37:01,950 --> 01:36:57,280
sitting in the chair and I thought my

1855
01:37:03,360 --> 01:37:01,960
word the sensing exercise I do it every

1856
01:37:06,990 --> 01:37:03,370
night when I'm sitting in that chair

1857
01:37:09,959 --> 01:37:07,000
sitting it's an old couch actually and I

1858
01:37:12,630 --> 01:37:09,969
thought well I'm gonna do it Warren so

1859
01:37:15,240 --> 01:37:12,640
as soon as I got home I started really

1860
01:37:19,229 --> 01:37:15,250
doing it because I'd known for years

1861
01:37:22,550 --> 01:37:19,239
that the visitors responded to it they

1862
01:37:24,959 --> 01:37:22,560
had I think that's how they originally

1863
01:37:26,490 --> 01:37:24,969
became interested in me because I did

1864
01:37:29,729 --> 01:37:26,500
this and they realized that they could

1865
01:37:34,560 --> 01:37:29,739
use use this methodology to communicate

1866
01:37:38,910 --> 01:37:34,570
with me so then I get home in a week or

1867
01:37:41,850 --> 01:37:38,920
so later somebody starts to wake me up

1868
01:37:43,890 --> 01:37:41,860
first they electrify one of my toes and

1869
01:37:47,129 --> 01:37:43,900
that leap cause me to leap out of bed at

1870
01:37:50,220 --> 01:37:47,139
3 o'clock in the morning I figure you

1871
01:37:52,439 --> 01:37:50,230
know I can't explain it so I figured

1872
01:37:54,959 --> 01:37:52,449
it wasn't gout or anything like that and

1873
01:37:57,570 --> 01:37:54,969
I figured it was just some some weird

1874
01:38:02,400 --> 01:37:57,580
thing that happened to me then the next

1875
01:38:04,950 --> 01:38:02,410
night having failed to wake up this old

1876
01:38:07,740 --> 01:38:04,960
lump successfully get him to makes it

1877
01:38:11,689 --> 01:38:07,750
bright connections the night before it's

1878
01:38:16,979 --> 01:38:11,699
more blunt someone that I cannot see

1879
01:38:21,360 --> 01:38:16,989
grabs my right nipple and shakes a

1880
01:38:23,850 --> 01:38:21,370
Dickens out of it I would have not been

1881
01:38:26,430 --> 01:38:23,860
surprised if there was a Whitley body

1882
01:38:28,470 --> 01:38:26,440
form in the ceiling at that point I mean

1883
01:38:30,930 --> 01:38:28,480
I got up I woke up right away

1884
01:38:34,169 --> 01:38:30,940
sure once again it's 3 o'clock in the

1885
01:38:38,520 --> 01:38:34,179
morning and I think you [\h__\h] they're

1886
01:38:40,140 --> 01:38:38,530
after you to do their want you Oh Derek

1887
01:38:42,150 --> 01:38:40,150
this is the sensing issues they used to

1888
01:38:45,390 --> 01:38:42,160
try to get me to do it back in the 90s

1889
01:38:47,189 --> 01:38:45,400
in the in that cabin in upstate New York

1890
01:38:50,669 --> 01:38:47,199
and I did it for a few weeks with them

1891
01:38:53,760 --> 01:38:50,679
then at 3 they really liked that and it

1892
01:38:56,610 --> 01:38:53,770
turns out someone my websites a very

1893
01:38:59,550 --> 01:38:56,620
social website it's got a lot of oh

1894
01:39:01,919 --> 01:38:59,560
there's a there's a free message board

1895
01:39:03,720 --> 01:39:01,929
and there's places where the subscribers

1896
01:39:05,669 --> 01:39:03,730
can comment and there's a weekly chat

1897
01:39:08,669 --> 01:39:05,679
and seven o'clock every Wednesday night

1898
01:39:10,470 --> 01:39:08,679
so it's a very social very oriented

1899
01:39:14,280 --> 01:39:10,480
websites a place where people can go to

1900
01:39:17,970 --> 01:39:14,290
be together and so one of the people on

1901
01:39:21,000 --> 01:39:17,980
the website said to me you know quickly

1902
01:39:24,419 --> 01:39:21,010
that this is something this is a very

1903
01:39:28,380 --> 01:39:24,429
ancient practice it's a yoga practice

1904
01:39:30,510 --> 01:39:28,390
and I'm going to try hard to remember

1905
01:39:33,380 --> 01:39:30,520
the name of it because that's I had it

1906
01:39:36,360 --> 01:39:33,390
up here and now it's not coming up but

1907
01:39:37,919 --> 01:39:36,370
I'll get to it at some point in the show

1908
01:39:40,380 --> 01:39:37,929
but right now I'm just gonna have to say

1909
01:39:43,370 --> 01:39:40,390
that and I looked it up and it's

1910
01:39:47,640 --> 01:39:43,380
something that doing this at that hour

1911
01:39:51,600 --> 01:39:47,650
has been part of a certain type of yoga

1912
01:39:56,669 --> 01:39:51,610
because it enables you to contact the

1913
01:40:00,150 --> 01:39:56,679
spirit world more fully at a time when

1914
01:40:04,080 --> 01:40:00,160
everyone's mind is quiet around you and

1915
01:40:06,660 --> 01:40:04,090
they're all sleeping amazing and

1916
01:40:09,780 --> 01:40:06,670
she I guess wanted me to do it then and

1917
01:40:11,940 --> 01:40:09,790
I've been doing it then ever since every

1918
01:40:14,340 --> 01:40:11,950
night I never failed to get up at 3

1919
01:40:16,350 --> 01:40:14,350
o'clock in the morning and do it I do

1920
01:40:19,350 --> 01:40:16,360
not set an alarm because I want it to be

1921
01:40:22,800 --> 01:40:19,360
organic and the interesting thing is if

1922
01:40:24,660 --> 01:40:22,810
I don't wake up they will wake me up at

1923
01:40:26,730 --> 01:40:24,670
first it was very harsh but now it's

1924
01:40:29,250 --> 01:40:26,740
much more gentle mmm there will be a

1925
01:40:32,190 --> 01:40:29,260
weight that comes down on my legs from

1926
01:40:34,800 --> 01:40:32,200
above and it's feels very loving and and

1927
01:40:37,170 --> 01:40:34,810
Sweden we have you enough to wake me up

1928
01:40:41,160 --> 01:40:37,180
and there's a slight electricity to it

1929
01:40:43,110 --> 01:40:41,170
or they might someone might blow like

1930
01:40:45,600 --> 01:40:43,120
night before lat and yeah night before

1931
01:40:49,650 --> 01:40:45,610
last someone blew in my face they used

1932
01:40:51,960 --> 01:40:49,660
to blow in my face a lot to get me but

1933
01:40:52,770 --> 01:40:51,970
it wasn't like someone going blowing

1934
01:40:54,390 --> 01:40:52,780
with their lungs

1935
01:40:57,330 --> 01:40:54,400
it was more like they were like kind of

1936
01:40:59,520 --> 01:40:57,340
pushing the air out of something it

1937
01:41:04,230 --> 01:40:59,530
didn't feel normal it didn't feel like a

1938
01:41:06,930 --> 01:41:04,240
normal gust of a a breath so that's what

1939
01:41:08,840 --> 01:41:06,940
that's where I am with that and I do it

1940
01:41:10,950 --> 01:41:08,850
I'm there with me all the time I'm just

1941
01:41:15,390 --> 01:41:10,960
heavily heavily involved with them

1942
01:41:18,480 --> 01:41:15,400
somebody just said quasi gone yoga no

1943
01:41:24,270 --> 01:41:18,490
I'll find it in a minute okay okay it

1944
01:41:27,120 --> 01:41:24,280
starts with an H folks now is it like

1945
01:41:31,170 --> 01:41:27,130
and we'll get to the the substance of

1946
01:41:36,450 --> 01:41:31,180
everything here right now shortly but is

1947
01:41:40,800 --> 01:41:36,460
it is it is it audible is it like Morse

1948
01:41:44,400 --> 01:41:40,810
code is it more of a feeling is it a is

1949
01:41:47,700 --> 01:41:44,410
it a just one load of download that you

1950
01:41:49,920 --> 01:41:47,710
have to unpack later know that they're

1951
01:41:53,520 --> 01:41:49,930
silent they don't make any noise at all

1952
01:41:55,170 --> 01:41:53,530
I mean the only I guess you well you

1953
01:41:57,960 --> 01:41:55,180
know there's been some very strange

1954
01:42:01,890 --> 01:41:57,970
stuff in this in this place I have to be

1955
01:42:05,880 --> 01:42:01,900
honest with you like I had I got a sleep

1956
01:42:11,150 --> 01:42:05,890
app I've tried videotaping this for so

1957
01:42:14,910 --> 01:42:11,160
many years in fact I tried recently and

1958
01:42:16,320 --> 01:42:14,920
what happened was this the one night

1959
01:42:17,489 --> 01:42:16,330
when I thought there might have been

1960
01:42:21,509 --> 01:42:17,499
someone physical

1961
01:42:23,489 --> 01:42:21,519
in here I have a nest camera and I

1962
01:42:26,100 --> 01:42:23,499
thought well finally and I had it on for

1963
01:42:28,410 --> 01:42:26,110
about a week and I thought to myself

1964
01:42:33,089 --> 01:42:28,420
finally I maybe I've got something at

1965
01:42:35,759 --> 01:42:33,099
last and so I turn on I looked on the

1966
01:42:38,060 --> 01:42:35,769
the app and you know it has all these

1967
01:42:43,140 --> 01:42:38,070
moments where you something it's

1968
01:42:48,060 --> 01:42:43,150
recorded etc and it I think it was at

1969
01:42:52,979 --> 01:42:48,070
12:10 p.m. 4 a.m. for about an hour the

1970
01:42:55,109 --> 01:42:52,989
camera turned itself off it used to do

1971
01:42:56,879 --> 01:42:55,119
that a lot and I would always think that

1972
01:43:00,600 --> 01:42:56,889
there was someone here when that

1973
01:43:02,850 --> 01:43:00,610
happened and so I the hell with the

1974
01:43:04,439 --> 01:43:02,860
camera it's pointless because they

1975
01:43:06,120 --> 01:43:04,449
turned it there was someone you're I'm

1976
01:43:09,839 --> 01:43:06,130
sure and they turn it off they make it

1977
01:43:14,069 --> 01:43:09,849
turn off so they're not seen ok so that

1978
01:43:16,859 --> 01:43:14,079
makes my life easier I'm so happy I try

1979
01:43:19,319 --> 01:43:16,869
to sleep app which what it does is is

1980
01:43:21,359 --> 01:43:19,329
picks up any vocalizations and stuff

1981
01:43:27,000 --> 01:43:21,369
during the night when you're sleeping

1982
01:43:30,930 --> 01:43:27,010
and amazingly enough for a few nights it

1983
01:43:33,810 --> 01:43:30,940
worked and worked well and one of the

1984
01:43:38,430 --> 01:43:33,820
things that was amazing was I heard

1985
01:43:42,390 --> 01:43:38,440
myself talking to people I had no idea I

1986
01:43:44,520 --> 01:43:42,400
was talking to but who I knew well but I

1987
01:43:47,549 --> 01:43:44,530
did not I do not in this consciousness

1988
01:43:52,140 --> 01:43:47,559
know that I know them for example one

1989
01:43:54,120 --> 01:43:52,150
night you hear me go oh and I'm waked up

1990
01:43:58,020 --> 01:43:54,130
suddenly and you can hear it in my voice

1991
01:43:59,910 --> 01:43:58,030
it's just all and then I realized

1992
01:44:06,120 --> 01:43:59,920
there's someone there and I said I you

1993
01:44:09,930 --> 01:44:06,130
hear me say Oh mature and then a second

1994
01:44:13,379 --> 01:44:09,940
few seconds later I have a vague memory

1995
01:44:15,989 --> 01:44:13,389
of just it's so vague I can't even say

1996
01:44:18,899 --> 01:44:15,999
what it is but I hear my voice say very

1997
01:44:20,819 --> 01:44:18,909
pleasantly and and obviously I'm looking

1998
01:44:26,489 --> 01:44:20,829
forward to whatever is about to happen

1999
01:44:29,520 --> 01:44:26,499
I say teach me mature hmm I knew who

2000
01:44:31,080 --> 01:44:29,530
this was hmm this was someone who comes

2001
01:44:33,510 --> 01:44:31,090
to me a lot and who by

2002
01:44:35,550 --> 01:44:33,520
welcome in my life but in this

2003
01:44:39,470 --> 01:44:35,560
consciousness talking to you right now

2004
01:44:42,270 --> 01:44:39,480
Jimmy I have no idea

2005
01:44:46,260 --> 01:44:42,280
isn't that incredible yeah it is it is

2006
01:44:51,450 --> 01:44:46,270
quite incredible it is it is and when

2007
01:44:52,800 --> 01:44:51,460
did the did the communication of for the

2008
01:44:56,700 --> 01:44:52,810
lack of a better word Whitley I

2009
01:45:00,750 --> 01:44:56,710
apologize but did the communication with

2010
01:45:03,990 --> 01:45:00,760
the visitors get amplified and become

2011
01:45:06,900 --> 01:45:04,000
more frequent after the first of the

2012
01:45:09,030 --> 01:45:06,910
year when certainly this planet started

2013
01:45:12,690 --> 01:45:09,040
to go through some pretty rough changes

2014
01:45:16,920 --> 01:45:12,700
well actually it started like that in

2015
01:45:19,500 --> 01:45:16,930
the fall and you know I was I think one

2016
01:45:22,080 --> 01:45:19,510
of the reasons I was so attuned to this

2017
01:45:24,270 --> 01:45:22,090
situation was and started buying

2018
01:45:27,120 --> 01:45:24,280
supplies in December the way I did was

2019
01:45:28,680 --> 01:45:27,130
because I was a weird without being able

2020
01:45:34,320 --> 01:45:28,690
to put my finger on it that there was

2021
01:45:36,960 --> 01:45:34,330
something up and I wish I could say that

2022
01:45:40,020 --> 01:45:36,970
they had warned me and then I had warned

2023
01:45:42,270 --> 01:45:40,030
everybody but it just didn't work like

2024
01:45:45,660 --> 01:45:42,280
that and it apparently does not work

2025
01:45:47,790 --> 01:45:45,670
like that and I'm not so sure that that

2026
01:45:49,530 --> 01:45:47,800
I'm I think I'm right about the fact

2027
01:45:51,210 --> 01:45:49,540
that we can't see the future it's not

2028
01:45:54,360 --> 01:45:51,220
that they can't but that we can't even

2029
01:45:57,810 --> 01:45:54,370
if we're told because we're not meant to

2030
01:46:02,060 --> 01:45:57,820
it's not the way we're built anyway yeah

2031
01:46:04,410 --> 01:46:02,070
then I felt uneasy enough to buy

2032
01:46:07,920 --> 01:46:04,420
surgical gloves for God's sakes and then

2033
01:46:10,620 --> 01:46:07,930
95 masks which I had no I mean no reason

2034
01:46:13,020 --> 01:46:10,630
the world to buy but I bought a box a

2035
01:46:16,290 --> 01:46:13,030
couple of boxes of two masks and a

2036
01:46:18,180 --> 01:46:16,300
couple of boxes of the of the gloves and

2037
01:46:21,600 --> 01:46:18,190
I was able to give some to my family and

2038
01:46:24,320 --> 01:46:21,610
I wish I had made more noise about it

2039
01:46:26,430 --> 01:46:24,330
but I didn't really make a connection

2040
01:46:30,300 --> 01:46:26,440
you know that was what I'm telling you

2041
01:46:33,060 --> 01:46:30,310
is I probably was told but I could not

2042
01:46:35,640 --> 01:46:33,070
bring that into my conscious mind any

2043
01:46:39,210 --> 01:46:35,650
more than I can tell you who that person

2044
01:46:41,670 --> 01:46:39,220
I just talked about who I'm so familiar

2045
01:46:43,500 --> 01:46:41,680
with and obviously enjoy the company of

2046
01:46:45,750 --> 01:46:43,510
enormous li-like

2047
01:46:47,699 --> 01:46:45,760
tell you a single thing about that

2048
01:46:51,330 --> 01:46:47,709
person who they are where they're from

2049
01:46:54,359 --> 01:46:51,340
what they look like anything but believe

2050
01:46:55,549 --> 01:46:54,369
me I know somewhere and I know I know I

2051
01:46:58,560 --> 01:46:55,559
just can't reach it

2052
01:47:01,739 --> 01:46:58,570
so that's kind of where that is I mean I

2053
01:47:03,149 --> 01:47:01,749
would guess I was told and good couldn't

2054
01:47:06,029 --> 01:47:03,159
reach it you know what's interesting

2055
01:47:09,120 --> 01:47:06,039
about the mask and the gloves which we

2056
01:47:14,520 --> 01:47:09,130
have that we've got a stock of them but

2057
01:47:17,399 --> 01:47:14,530
I don't wear them so much for preventing

2058
01:47:23,069 --> 01:47:17,409
or spreading coronavirus I wear them so

2059
01:47:25,560 --> 01:47:23,079
I can go shopping I'm 74 and so I'm

2060
01:47:28,680 --> 01:47:25,570
pretty careful because I figure you know

2061
01:47:30,419 --> 01:47:28,690
if I'm gonna croak from coronavirus I'm

2062
01:47:33,750 --> 01:47:30,429
gonna feel like a fool because you know

2063
01:47:35,430 --> 01:47:33,760
I I I'm not an anti-vaxxer and I'm not a

2064
01:47:36,660 --> 01:47:35,440
person who doesn't believe in it and

2065
01:47:39,330 --> 01:47:36,670
there anything like that I take it very

2066
01:47:42,239 --> 01:47:39,340
seriously and I am trying to to protect

2067
01:47:43,799 --> 01:47:42,249
myself sure so yeah I do I do definitely

2068
01:47:45,569 --> 01:47:43,809
and I don't go out anymore than I

2069
01:47:48,479 --> 01:47:45,579
absolutely have to for especially not

2070
01:47:50,719 --> 01:47:48,489
the grocery store and stuff now what I'm

2071
01:47:55,819 --> 01:47:50,729
gonna ask you some specific questions

2072
01:47:59,969 --> 01:47:55,829
the in this in this communication this

2073
01:48:01,830 --> 01:47:59,979
however we want to turn that you brought

2074
01:48:04,259 --> 01:48:01,840
up something earlier in this show and

2075
01:48:06,750 --> 01:48:04,269
that is borders and you know that

2076
01:48:09,089 --> 01:48:06,760
borders you know that's a that's a

2077
01:48:10,560 --> 01:48:09,099
fictitious statement there are no they

2078
01:48:14,009 --> 01:48:10,570
look like borders but they're not

2079
01:48:18,959 --> 01:48:14,019
borders right and it's really strange on

2080
01:48:21,239 --> 01:48:18,969
this planet where there are certain

2081
01:48:23,759 --> 01:48:21,249
parts of this planet that are really

2082
01:48:27,180 --> 01:48:23,769
affected and there are others that are

2083
01:48:30,839 --> 01:48:27,190
not is that down to in is it the

2084
01:48:35,189 --> 01:48:30,849
individual is it like DNA you know what

2085
01:48:38,790 --> 01:48:35,199
why why are we having certain parts of

2086
01:48:42,029 --> 01:48:38,800
the world you know really affected and

2087
01:48:44,640 --> 01:48:42,039
others which are populated just like

2088
01:48:50,299 --> 01:48:44,650
anyplace else and in some cases heavily

2089
01:48:53,939 --> 01:48:50,309
but it isn't as it's not in areas as

2090
01:48:56,520 --> 01:48:53,949
affected why is that well first of all

2091
01:48:58,830 --> 01:48:56,530
it's still too early in the progress

2092
01:49:01,169 --> 01:48:58,840
so this disease to know how the world

2093
01:49:04,049 --> 01:49:01,179
how it's going to play out around the

2094
01:49:07,859 --> 01:49:04,059
world number one number two the reason

2095
01:49:12,089 --> 01:49:07,869
it is hitting the developed countries

2096
01:49:13,890 --> 01:49:12,099
faster and harder is that they are much

2097
01:49:18,870 --> 01:49:13,900
people in these countries are much more

2098
01:49:21,240 --> 01:49:18,880
mobile they come in into these you know

2099
01:49:22,740 --> 01:49:21,250
there's much more movement or there was

2100
01:49:26,459 --> 01:49:22,750
I mean there's at the moment but there

2101
01:49:28,979 --> 01:49:26,469
was in air traveled much more air travel

2102
01:49:33,870 --> 01:49:28,989
like between Hong Kong and London or New

2103
01:49:40,069 --> 01:49:33,880
York or LA or Milan then say travel

2104
01:49:43,229 --> 01:49:40,079
between Hong Kong and and Lagos or

2105
01:49:45,060 --> 01:49:43,239
consump Li because of the the fact that

2106
01:49:47,370 --> 01:49:45,070
there's not as much reason to go to the

2107
01:49:50,010 --> 01:49:47,380
third these countries and so the virus

2108
01:49:53,129 --> 01:49:50,020
fortunately has spread more slowly there

2109
01:49:56,310 --> 01:49:53,139
also it could be there's some evidence

2110
01:49:58,979 --> 01:49:56,320
that it is like the some other

2111
01:50:02,669 --> 01:49:58,989
coronaviruses is heat sensitive that's

2112
01:50:04,830 --> 01:50:02,679
not entirely clear yet but it might turn

2113
01:50:08,669 --> 01:50:04,840
out that that is the case in which case

2114
01:50:11,459 --> 01:50:08,679
that these countries that are in

2115
01:50:14,640 --> 01:50:11,469
tropical areas are thank god not going

2116
01:50:16,470 --> 01:50:14,650
to be so badly hit because these this is

2117
01:50:19,729 --> 01:50:16,480
where their populations are just so

2118
01:50:23,939 --> 01:50:19,739
vulnerable you know they have one

2119
01:50:28,379 --> 01:50:23,949
ventilator per hundred thousand people

2120
01:50:31,859 --> 01:50:28,389
in nigeria so one thing is very clear in

2121
01:50:34,260 --> 01:50:31,869
nigeria if you get Kovan and you start

2122
01:50:37,200 --> 01:50:34,270
to become unable to breathe you're gonna

2123
01:50:39,750 --> 01:50:37,210
die mmm period mm-hmm

2124
01:50:42,839 --> 01:50:39,760
so let's hope they don't get it I mean

2125
01:50:45,419 --> 01:50:42,849
frankly but you don't know what will

2126
01:50:48,209 --> 01:50:45,429
happen and also another thing reporting

2127
01:50:51,120 --> 01:50:48,219
is from many parts of the world is just

2128
01:50:55,620 --> 01:50:51,130
very minimal when you're talking about a

2129
01:50:57,660 --> 01:50:55,630
planet which has a fantastic gap between

2130
01:50:59,010 --> 01:50:57,670
the richest and the poorest I mean I'm

2131
01:51:00,839 --> 01:50:59,020
not talking about the billionaires I'm

2132
01:51:03,629 --> 01:51:00,849
talking about us we're the richest

2133
01:51:06,120 --> 01:51:03,639
countries you US and Europe and parts of

2134
01:51:08,040 --> 01:51:06,130
Asia but when you know you there are

2135
01:51:09,989 --> 01:51:08,050
plenty of people in this world who live

2136
01:51:13,469 --> 01:51:09,999
in under 200 dollars a year

2137
01:51:17,669 --> 01:51:13,479
and yet prices are the same in their

2138
01:51:19,620 --> 01:51:17,679
countries is there here so you know

2139
01:51:22,850 --> 01:51:19,630
those people are living extremely

2140
01:51:25,529 --> 01:51:22,860
minimal lives and they have nothing

2141
01:51:26,669 --> 01:51:25,539
nothing to fall back on at all

2142
01:51:31,469 --> 01:51:26,679
whatsoever

2143
01:51:33,509 --> 01:51:31,479
now you mentioned less sure and there's

2144
01:51:34,890 --> 01:51:33,519
not gonna be any reporting about what's

2145
01:51:37,709 --> 01:51:34,900
going to happen what's happening to them

2146
01:51:41,430 --> 01:51:37,719
we won't even know it yeah that's that's

2147
01:51:44,939 --> 01:51:41,440
another part for me that I'm still

2148
01:51:47,819 --> 01:51:44,949
trying to come to grips with which is I

2149
01:51:50,609 --> 01:51:47,829
mean testing is needed you need to test

2150
01:51:53,549 --> 01:51:50,619
everybody because you need data and and

2151
01:51:56,759 --> 01:51:53,559
things without testing what are you

2152
01:52:00,330 --> 01:51:56,769
reporting on right if you don't have the

2153
01:52:02,850 --> 01:52:00,340
data to come in then what is it that you

2154
01:52:05,640 --> 01:52:02,860
are establishing everything on rumor you

2155
01:52:07,830 --> 01:52:05,650
can't do that you know it just seems

2156
01:52:09,660 --> 01:52:07,840
like everybody on this planet has got to

2157
01:52:11,339 --> 01:52:09,670
get tested everybody I don't think

2158
01:52:12,359 --> 01:52:11,349
anybody's really no doubt I don't think

2159
01:52:14,279 --> 01:52:12,369
that's true actually

2160
01:52:16,020 --> 01:52:14,289
I disagree there all right I think that

2161
01:52:18,450 --> 01:52:16,030
there's something else that we need to

2162
01:52:20,819 --> 01:52:18,460
do what's that what we need to

2163
01:52:22,950 --> 01:52:20,829
understand this better and here's

2164
01:52:30,750 --> 01:52:22,960
exactly what we need to understand

2165
01:52:33,509 --> 01:52:30,760
precisely and that is there are a large

2166
01:52:35,129 --> 01:52:33,519
number of people who get this disease

2167
01:52:37,489 --> 01:52:35,139
and either don't know it or have

2168
01:52:41,129 --> 01:52:37,499
extremely mild symptoms and it goes away

2169
01:52:43,020 --> 01:52:41,139
without any suggestion of the hospital

2170
01:52:46,649 --> 01:52:43,030
may be a slight fever nothing it's

2171
01:52:50,129 --> 01:52:46,659
nothing for them you can have two people

2172
01:52:52,250 --> 01:52:50,139
35 each of them 35 years old both of

2173
01:52:56,209 --> 01:52:52,260
them perfectly healthy with no known

2174
01:52:58,770 --> 01:52:56,219
underlying conditions one of them is

2175
01:53:01,830 --> 01:52:58,780
devastated and the other gets it too and

2176
01:53:04,919 --> 01:53:01,840
doesn't even know it now what is the

2177
01:53:08,279 --> 01:53:04,929
difference between those two people this

2178
01:53:12,060 --> 01:53:08,289
is what we need to understand because

2179
01:53:15,660 --> 01:53:12,070
once we can identify the people who are

2180
01:53:17,370 --> 01:53:15,670
really genuinely at risk and that's

2181
01:53:19,350 --> 01:53:17,380
going to be a small number after all

2182
01:53:21,509 --> 01:53:19,360
because you know you're talking about

2183
01:53:23,110 --> 01:53:21,519
the United States the country at 300

2184
01:53:25,960 --> 01:53:23,120
plus million people

2185
01:53:29,890 --> 01:53:25,970
and we just recently reached a million

2186
01:53:32,200 --> 01:53:29,900
people having this illness that we know

2187
01:53:33,910 --> 01:53:32,210
of and the reason this is probably

2188
01:53:37,120 --> 01:53:33,920
millions more about it and didn't even

2189
01:53:40,390 --> 01:53:37,130
know it who are the people who get the

2190
01:53:41,830 --> 01:53:40,400
symptoms severe symptoms and and and

2191
01:53:45,250 --> 01:53:41,840
they're laid up by this and even

2192
01:53:49,240 --> 01:53:45,260
hospitalized or even died why are they

2193
01:53:52,120 --> 01:53:49,250
what is different about them this is

2194
01:53:55,330 --> 01:53:52,130
what we need to know it's something to

2195
01:53:57,400 --> 01:53:55,340
do with their genes almost certainly

2196
01:54:00,010 --> 01:53:57,410
there's something in their genetic

2197
01:54:05,130 --> 01:54:00,020
makeup or the structure of their cells

2198
01:54:07,840 --> 01:54:05,140
like there is a there's a receptor on

2199
01:54:10,630 --> 01:54:07,850
cells in the lungs called an ace 2

2200
01:54:12,880 --> 01:54:10,640
receptor it's on a lot of cells actually

2201
01:54:15,220 --> 01:54:12,890
in different parts of the body and this

2202
01:54:16,590 --> 01:54:15,230
receptor is what the kovat virus

2203
01:54:21,400 --> 01:54:16,600
attaches to

2204
01:54:24,010 --> 01:54:21,410
now does this receptor is it different

2205
01:54:26,680 --> 01:54:24,020
in certain people are they delayed are

2206
01:54:29,590 --> 01:54:26,690
they born with more of them what is it

2207
01:54:33,370 --> 01:54:29,600
that causes certain people to have this

2208
01:54:36,430 --> 01:54:33,380
once we can once we can take a DNA test

2209
01:54:38,680 --> 01:54:36,440
on someone and say yep you are at risk

2210
01:54:42,400 --> 01:54:38,690
and to someone else no you're not at

2211
01:54:45,640 --> 01:54:42,410
serious risk we're we're golden we can

2212
01:54:47,350 --> 01:54:45,650
open up safely right and what's

2213
01:54:51,460 --> 01:54:47,360
happening in this country now it's very

2214
01:54:54,670 --> 01:54:51,470
understandable people are I mean how

2215
01:54:58,090 --> 01:54:54,680
does it feel I'm I don't have an

2216
01:55:01,000 --> 01:54:58,100
immediate problem with like my Brent or

2217
01:55:03,460 --> 01:55:01,010
anything but I have friends who can't

2218
01:55:05,290 --> 01:55:03,470
pay right who can't pay their credit

2219
01:55:09,790 --> 01:55:05,300
cards who can't pay their rent who can't

2220
01:55:13,530 --> 01:55:09,800
buy food lots of friends and hey those

2221
01:55:18,040 --> 01:55:13,540
people are not gonna sit there and die

2222
01:55:21,760 --> 01:55:18,050
they're going to take the risk and we

2223
01:55:26,320 --> 01:55:21,770
have to find out we have to concentrate

2224
01:55:28,330 --> 01:55:26,330
on minimizing that risk and we can do it

2225
01:55:32,500 --> 01:55:28,340
and there are scientific groups working

2226
01:55:36,010 --> 01:55:32,510
on that right now and but they have to

2227
01:55:39,220 --> 01:55:36,020
be we have to understand very clearly

2228
01:55:42,400 --> 01:55:39,230
this is the correct focus this is how we

2229
01:55:44,680 --> 01:55:42,410
should go about it because once we have

2230
01:55:48,130 --> 01:55:44,690
those people that cohort of people

2231
01:55:51,280 --> 01:55:48,140
identified then we can move ahead safely

2232
01:55:53,590 --> 01:55:51,290
and the the danger of doing it is it's

2233
01:55:56,650 --> 01:55:53,600
happening naturally now and I can't I

2234
01:55:58,840 --> 01:55:56,660
would never blame anyone who goes out

2235
01:56:01,240 --> 01:55:58,850
there and demonstrates or goes back to

2236
01:56:04,240 --> 01:56:01,250
work because I understand perfectly

2237
01:56:04,810 --> 01:56:04,250
where they're coming from I sure do we

2238
01:56:10,930 --> 01:56:04,820
all do

2239
01:56:13,270 --> 01:56:10,940
absolutely but but we have to be able to

2240
01:56:16,690 --> 01:56:13,280
identify these people and the reason

2241
01:56:20,170 --> 01:56:16,700
it's dangerous now is because it's

2242
01:56:23,050 --> 01:56:20,180
probably going to cause a huge increase

2243
01:56:27,100 --> 01:56:23,060
in the number of cases and the danger is

2244
01:56:30,250 --> 01:56:27,110
that the combination of the hospital's

2245
01:56:32,230 --> 01:56:30,260
being overwhelmed by not only huge

2246
01:56:35,080 --> 01:56:32,240
number on a huge increase in patients

2247
01:56:38,110 --> 01:56:35,090
but also economic issues that are

2248
01:56:41,250 --> 01:56:38,120
causing the closed down and and layoffs

2249
01:56:44,860 --> 01:56:41,260
doctors and nurses at the time like this

2250
01:56:46,570 --> 01:56:44,870
21 critical care hospitals in Texas have

2251
01:56:48,970 --> 01:56:46,580
closed down in the past six months and

2252
01:56:51,910 --> 01:56:48,980
they passed three months in there I

2253
01:56:54,460 --> 01:56:51,920
think it's 21 and it's mostly in rural

2254
01:56:58,450 --> 01:56:54,470
areas and because they don't have the

2255
01:57:01,330 --> 01:56:58,460
money and some states are at the edge of

2256
01:57:03,640 --> 01:57:01,340
bankruptcy and when the states go

2257
01:57:06,700 --> 01:57:03,650
bankrupt and the policemen and the

2258
01:57:09,670 --> 01:57:06,710
firemen can't be paid you're dropping

2259
01:57:13,920 --> 01:57:09,680
back down into the dark ages very

2260
01:57:16,900 --> 01:57:13,930
quickly this is a serious immediate

2261
01:57:19,690 --> 01:57:16,910
extraordinary problem we have not fully

2262
01:57:23,350 --> 01:57:19,700
yet wrapped our minds around and we have

2263
01:57:25,300 --> 01:57:23,360
to we have to because this is beautiful

2264
01:57:27,400 --> 01:57:25,310
what we made in this world and I don't

2265
01:57:30,730 --> 01:57:27,410
mean just America I mean all of these

2266
01:57:34,180 --> 01:57:30,740
wonderful countries full of brilliant

2267
01:57:36,310 --> 01:57:34,190
beautiful educated people full of

2268
01:57:40,060 --> 01:57:36,320
adventure and excitement and zest for

2269
01:57:43,030 --> 01:57:40,070
life we can't let that go now and Rita

2270
01:57:44,680 --> 01:57:43,040
said to me yesterday stop me in my

2271
01:57:47,050 --> 01:57:44,690
tracks Whitley

2272
01:57:48,429 --> 01:57:47,060
Rita goes we spent a couple of hundred

2273
01:57:51,529 --> 01:57:48,439
years making

2274
01:57:55,120 --> 01:57:51,539
the United States this wonderful country

2275
01:57:58,040 --> 01:57:55,130
and we took it down in two months right

2276
01:58:01,399 --> 01:57:58,050
who is just like what are the most

2277
01:58:06,500 --> 01:58:01,409
profound statements that how quickly

2278
01:58:08,389 --> 01:58:06,510
things can be undone well we're in the

2279
01:58:09,979 --> 01:58:08,399
we're in we're literally I mean the

2280
01:58:13,520 --> 01:58:09,989
cliche we're between a rock and a hard

2281
01:58:17,029 --> 01:58:13,530
place and we are because you know we

2282
01:58:19,310 --> 01:58:17,039
have to open the economy or we're going

2283
01:58:20,719 --> 01:58:19,320
to have a catastrophe and a lot more

2284
01:58:23,810 --> 01:58:20,729
people are gonna die of that

2285
01:58:26,029 --> 01:58:23,820
then I'll Cove it on the one hand on the

2286
01:58:29,689 --> 01:58:26,039
other hand if we don't do this very

2287
01:58:33,589 --> 01:58:29,699
carefully and very correctly then the

2288
01:58:36,500 --> 01:58:33,599
economy is going to be cratered by the

2289
01:58:38,810 --> 01:58:36,510
breakdown that is going to be caused by

2290
01:58:41,600 --> 01:58:38,820
Oh being overwhelmed by too much kovat

2291
01:58:43,929 --> 01:58:41,610
so you know we we got out we got to find

2292
01:58:46,669 --> 01:58:43,939
a happy medium and the key to me is

2293
01:58:49,459 --> 01:58:46,679
finding out so that we know in advance

2294
01:58:51,949 --> 01:58:49,469
who is vulnerable and who isn't once we

2295
01:58:56,560 --> 01:58:51,959
know that and we can find that out it's

2296
01:58:59,359 --> 01:58:56,570
not impossible as I say that there are

2297
01:59:01,250 --> 01:58:59,369
this is definitely being worked on right

2298
01:59:07,069 --> 01:59:01,260
now and I'm let me describe my paperwork

2299
01:59:09,109 --> 01:59:07,079
here all right certain genetic variants

2300
01:59:11,899 --> 01:59:09,119
especially in genes that influence the

2301
01:59:15,639 --> 01:59:11,909
immune system seem to predispose people

2302
01:59:19,100 --> 01:59:15,649
to a host of infectious diseases and

2303
01:59:19,969 --> 01:59:19,110
this is a there is a group that's what

2304
01:59:24,049 --> 01:59:19,979
is it

2305
01:59:26,419 --> 01:59:24,059
this doctor Kari Stefansson asks he's

2306
01:59:29,629 --> 01:59:26,429
head of decode genetics and Icelandic

2307
01:59:31,729 --> 01:59:29,639
subsidiary of amateur of Amgen so he's a

2308
01:59:34,040 --> 01:59:31,739
heavy he's a heavy hitter in this field

2309
01:59:36,399 --> 01:59:34,050
what is it that makes some people very

2310
01:59:38,810 --> 01:59:36,409
sick and other people hardly sick at all

2311
01:59:42,229 --> 01:59:38,820
he says there are two major

2312
01:59:43,850 --> 01:59:42,239
possibilities some people's genes may

2313
01:59:46,850 --> 01:59:43,860
simply make them more vulnerable to

2314
01:59:50,989 --> 01:59:46,860
serious illness while others genes may

2315
01:59:54,739 --> 01:59:50,999
confer resistance and we have to find

2316
01:59:56,929 --> 01:59:54,749
out who is who and once we do that we

2317
01:59:58,850 --> 01:59:56,939
are on our way to defeating this even

2318
02:00:00,689 --> 01:59:58,860
without a vaccine which we may not have

2319
02:00:02,850 --> 02:00:00,699
in time is Angie

2320
02:00:06,719 --> 02:00:02,860
and am Jenna's right at the street from

2321
02:00:08,040 --> 02:00:06,729
us as you know here in the valley and we

2322
02:00:11,549 --> 02:00:08,050
need to take a break right here but as

2323
02:00:12,600 --> 02:00:11,559
Amgen actively working on this every

2324
02:00:14,879 --> 02:00:12,610
drug company in the world

2325
02:00:19,560 --> 02:00:14,889
yeah I'm sure they are yeah that was a I

2326
02:00:21,600 --> 02:00:19,570
realized the dumbness like what but but

2327
02:00:23,370 --> 02:00:21,610
Amgen apparently is working on the

2328
02:00:25,589 --> 02:00:23,380
genetic issue which I considered the

2329
02:00:27,750 --> 02:00:25,599
critical issue no one talks about and

2330
02:00:29,640 --> 02:00:27,760
it's not in the media much but once I

2331
02:00:31,620 --> 02:00:29,650
hear you I'm gonna take her turn out to

2332
02:00:33,239 --> 02:00:31,630
be critical we're taking a break right

2333
02:00:35,580 --> 02:00:33,249
here our guest tonight Whitley Strieber

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02:00:39,100 --> 02:00:35,590
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with continued use of the tea you can

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experience clearer healthier younger

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looking skin increased energy and a

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happier outlook on life so if you're

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tired of being tired

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get the life changed tea at get the tea

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02:04:22,790 --> 02:04:20,410
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[Music]

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02:04:38,300 --> 02:04:37,290
welcome back fade to black I am your

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02:04:40,270 --> 02:04:38,310
host Jimmy Church I guess tonight

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02:04:43,280 --> 02:04:40,280
Whitley Strieber

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02:04:45,970 --> 02:04:43,290
Whitley's links are over at Jimmy Turks

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02:04:48,710 --> 02:04:45,980
radio calm you can click unknown country

2422
02:04:52,240 --> 02:04:48,720
streamer calm all of this books are

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02:04:54,800 --> 02:04:52,250
there too as well and now Whitley

2424
02:04:58,130 --> 02:04:54,810
picking up where we just left off it

2425
02:05:00,770 --> 02:04:58,140
sounds like I mean this is a bright

2426
02:05:02,810 --> 02:05:00,780
future right this isn't this isn't doom

2427
02:05:04,580 --> 02:05:02,820
and gloom if we if you know what I'm

2428
02:05:06,590 --> 02:05:04,590
saying right the fear porn that is

2429
02:05:10,840 --> 02:05:06,600
happening right now we will fix this

2430
02:05:14,000 --> 02:05:10,850
right and you know all it takes is is

2431
02:05:17,030 --> 02:05:14,010
intelligent leadership and we've got

2432
02:05:18,920 --> 02:05:17,040
that in this world of course countries

2433
02:05:20,480 --> 02:05:18,930
are fumbling around our country is

2434
02:05:23,840 --> 02:05:20,490
fumbling around the Chinese fumbled

2435
02:05:25,640 --> 02:05:23,850
around other countries from the rest

2436
02:05:29,930 --> 02:05:25,650
some of them did better than others the

2437
02:05:31,610 --> 02:05:29,940
Germans did real well and the Swedes are

2438
02:05:33,110 --> 02:05:31,620
doing it completely differently but

2439
02:05:35,180 --> 02:05:33,120
there's their system it seems to be

2440
02:05:37,130 --> 02:05:35,190
working I'm not so sure it would work

2441
02:05:41,390 --> 02:05:37,140
here because this is a much bigger mark

2442
02:05:43,250 --> 02:05:41,400
much bigger more diverse country some of

2443
02:05:44,540 --> 02:05:43,260
them didn't do it so whether Brazil is

2444
02:05:47,270 --> 02:05:44,550
not doing it well and they're gonna

2445
02:05:50,900 --> 02:05:47,280
suffer so it you know it's a mixed bag

2446
02:05:53,840 --> 02:05:50,910
but the point is we will get past this

2447
02:05:56,210 --> 02:05:53,850
once we through it as mankind as a

2448
02:05:59,090 --> 02:05:56,220
species yeah right and so once we

2449
02:06:02,990 --> 02:05:59,100
understand the genetics side of it is

2450
02:06:06,040 --> 02:06:03,000
this something that a technology like

2451
02:06:08,630 --> 02:06:06,050
say CRISPR or some direct DNA

2452
02:06:11,600 --> 02:06:08,640
modification instead of pursuing a

2453
02:06:15,560 --> 02:06:11,610
vaccine right and trying to go that

2454
02:06:18,440 --> 02:06:15,570
route or developing some type of

2455
02:06:19,730 --> 02:06:18,450
immunity and antibodies that others are

2456
02:06:22,010 --> 02:06:19,740
talking about right now and do it

2457
02:06:25,370 --> 02:06:22,020
naturally but is this something that we

2458
02:06:27,920 --> 02:06:25,380
could use hard science on and just

2459
02:06:32,780 --> 02:06:27,930
eliminate for for the future of mankind

2460
02:06:37,370 --> 02:06:32,790
oh absolutely we could we could week

2461
02:06:40,940 --> 02:06:37,380
it'll take longer to get get it to that

2462
02:06:43,160 --> 02:06:40,950
point in other words we eliminated

2463
02:06:46,820 --> 02:06:43,170
smallpox it's no longer with us

2464
02:06:48,800 --> 02:06:46,830
and I don't think we're ever gonna

2465
02:06:51,830 --> 02:06:48,810
eliminate the corona

2466
02:06:53,930 --> 02:06:51,840
viruses they are they are real clever

2467
02:06:55,750 --> 02:06:53,940
suckers and if we've been with they went

2468
02:06:58,130 --> 02:06:55,760
with us for a long time you know that

2469
02:07:00,920 --> 02:06:58,140
vaccine research that's going on in

2470
02:07:02,930 --> 02:07:00,930
England that at Oxford had a head start

2471
02:07:05,300 --> 02:07:02,940
because they were actually working on a

2472
02:07:07,910 --> 02:07:05,310
vaccine for the common cold which is the

2473
02:07:10,610 --> 02:07:07,920
holy grail of all pharmaceutical

2474
02:07:12,530 --> 02:07:10,620
vaccines as you may imagine because

2475
02:07:14,180 --> 02:07:12,540
everyone would love a vaccine for the

2476
02:07:16,400 --> 02:07:14,190
whole for the common cold and they were

2477
02:07:18,560 --> 02:07:16,410
able to fold that research into

2478
02:07:21,890 --> 02:07:18,570
coronavirus because it's also a corona

2479
02:07:26,060 --> 02:07:21,900
corona virus that you know the cold is

2480
02:07:28,760 --> 02:07:26,070
also a corona virus but so that that is

2481
02:07:30,740 --> 02:07:28,770
one direction we will go in or there's a

2482
02:07:33,050 --> 02:07:30,750
lot of anti-vaxxers out there who will

2483
02:07:36,830 --> 02:07:33,060
not take a vaccine though and they will

2484
02:07:38,060 --> 02:07:36,840
remain vulnerable for that reason but

2485
02:07:41,210 --> 02:07:38,070
you know there's nothing you could do

2486
02:07:44,750 --> 02:07:41,220
about that there's also other things

2487
02:07:49,040 --> 02:07:44,760
that are being done of the the Gilead

2488
02:07:52,160 --> 02:07:49,050
pharmaceuticals a product that they're

2489
02:07:54,710 --> 02:07:52,170
rolling out right now works the same way

2490
02:07:57,470 --> 02:07:54,720
that Tamiflu does and what it does is it

2491
02:08:01,790 --> 02:07:57,480
inhibits the virus's ability to

2492
02:08:05,090 --> 02:08:01,800
reproduce and and to reproduce itself

2493
02:08:08,380 --> 02:08:05,100
and therefore the body gets a better

2494
02:08:12,770 --> 02:08:08,390
chance to bring its own immune system

2495
02:08:15,530 --> 02:08:12,780
its immune response to - into the

2496
02:08:18,080 --> 02:08:15,540
picture and it means that the that the

2497
02:08:21,380 --> 02:08:18,090
infection will last won't last as long

2498
02:08:25,700 --> 02:08:21,390
and the result of that is that people

2499
02:08:28,010 --> 02:08:25,710
won't get overwhelmed by less likely to

2500
02:08:30,020 --> 02:08:28,020
get overwhelmed by this thing because

2501
02:08:32,840 --> 02:08:30,030
it's it's in the latter stages of it

2502
02:08:35,570 --> 02:08:32,850
that they get over their body gets

2503
02:08:38,840 --> 02:08:35,580
overwhelmed and the immune system the

2504
02:08:41,600 --> 02:08:38,850
virus begins to exponentially increase

2505
02:08:45,230 --> 02:08:41,610
in numbers and the immune system kind of

2506
02:08:48,470 --> 02:08:45,240
goes crazy and the immune system starts

2507
02:08:51,800 --> 02:08:48,480
starts overwhelming the body's own the

2508
02:08:55,280 --> 02:08:51,810
the body itself that fever goes crazy

2509
02:08:57,740 --> 02:08:55,290
apparently this blood clotting thing

2510
02:09:01,340 --> 02:08:57,750
that happens in some cases is related to

2511
02:09:05,950 --> 02:09:01,350
the immune system going off track and so

2512
02:09:09,380 --> 02:09:05,960
it's you know it's the anti the anti the

2513
02:09:12,500 --> 02:09:09,390
drug that the antiviral that Gilead is

2514
02:09:14,990 --> 02:09:12,510
working on might prevent that and that

2515
02:09:18,110 --> 02:09:15,000
would be a big plus if we could know

2516
02:09:22,130 --> 02:09:18,120
that people yes some people might get

2517
02:09:24,350 --> 02:09:22,140
very sick but they won't get terminally

2518
02:09:28,370 --> 02:09:24,360
sick they're unlikely to end up in on a

2519
02:09:32,200 --> 02:09:28,380
ventilator unlikely to have to go to the

2520
02:09:36,430 --> 02:09:32,210
hospital and overwhelm the the

2521
02:09:38,660 --> 02:09:36,440
healthcare system that would be helpful

2522
02:09:42,170 --> 02:09:38,670
so there's a lot going on that's

2523
02:09:44,150 --> 02:09:42,180
positive and but I think that the the

2524
02:09:47,960 --> 02:09:44,160
bottom line is we really do need to

2525
02:09:49,940 --> 02:09:47,970
understand who's gonna get into trouble

2526
02:09:52,640 --> 02:09:49,950
with it and who isn't

2527
02:09:57,040 --> 02:09:52,650
now it's been said so many times over

2528
02:10:00,620 --> 02:09:57,050
the years that if if we could conquer

2529
02:10:02,960 --> 02:10:00,630
any virus then that takes care of the

2530
02:10:07,480 --> 02:10:02,970
guy you know then that's it I mean the

2531
02:10:14,150 --> 02:10:07,490
the virus question is is answered but

2532
02:10:15,590 --> 02:10:14,160
would would you take an antiviral

2533
02:10:18,110 --> 02:10:15,600
vaccine I'm talking about you

2534
02:10:20,750 --> 02:10:18,120
specifically Whitley oh yeah you would

2535
02:10:23,120 --> 02:10:20,760
do it oh sure listen I grew up in the

2536
02:10:26,960 --> 02:10:23,130
era of polio right when I was a little

2537
02:10:28,370 --> 02:10:26,970
boy every summer some kids did not come

2538
02:10:31,720 --> 02:10:28,380
back to school because they died of

2539
02:10:34,190 --> 02:10:31,730
polio or became paralyzed in the Sun and

2540
02:10:36,920 --> 02:10:34,200
we used to have to be hidden away in our

2541
02:10:40,070 --> 02:10:36,930
house for weeks during the summer time

2542
02:10:42,500 --> 02:10:40,080
when I was a little boy so yeah when

2543
02:10:44,540 --> 02:10:42,510
that vaccine that polio vaccine came out

2544
02:10:47,450 --> 02:10:44,550
it changed my life in the life of them

2545
02:10:49,070 --> 02:10:47,460
all my friends and I have not been

2546
02:10:53,990 --> 02:10:49,080
interested in the an evac smoove Minh

2547
02:10:58,190 --> 02:10:54,000
since then because you know i I've here

2548
02:10:59,690 --> 02:10:58,200
probably because of a vaccine and I just

2549
02:11:02,510 --> 02:10:59,700
don't you know I'm just not concerned

2550
02:11:07,370 --> 02:11:02,520
about it frankly I know I listen I've

2551
02:11:09,050 --> 02:11:07,380
listened to the Kennedy young Kennedy

2552
02:11:11,210 --> 02:11:09,060
fellow who talks about it and all of his

2553
02:11:13,520 --> 02:11:11,220
arguments and I have friends who would

2554
02:11:14,810 --> 02:11:13,530
never go near a vaccine and that's their

2555
02:11:20,630 --> 02:11:14,820
privilege but

2556
02:11:24,410 --> 02:11:20,640
that's not my choice yeah there's

2557
02:11:28,190 --> 02:11:24,420
there's anti-vaxxers and and when we are

2558
02:11:31,460 --> 02:11:28,200
talking about as specifically like the

2559
02:11:33,110 --> 02:11:31,470
movie Bakst which is a scary movie - wow

2560
02:11:35,060 --> 02:11:33,120
that's the movie I was that's what I was

2561
02:11:37,070 --> 02:11:35,070
referring to the right and I've seen

2562
02:11:39,640 --> 02:11:37,080
that yeah that's a scary movie

2563
02:11:41,960 --> 02:11:39,650
it really makes you question things

2564
02:11:43,850 --> 02:11:41,970
especially when it comes to autism and

2565
02:11:46,240 --> 02:11:43,860
the amount of vaccines that are required

2566
02:11:48,800 --> 02:11:46,250
and the studies that are behind it that

2567
02:11:50,570 --> 02:11:48,810
suggested the exact opposite is

2568
02:11:54,260 --> 02:11:50,580
happening here which is it's it's a

2569
02:11:57,950 --> 02:11:54,270
causer of of autism and the numbers that

2570
02:12:01,250 --> 02:11:57,960
are going up exponentially so in autism

2571
02:12:04,070 --> 02:12:01,260
today it's it's a scary thing and then

2572
02:12:07,310 --> 02:12:04,080
when we flip this over and we're talking

2573
02:12:11,690 --> 02:12:07,320
about not only the caring of the common

2574
02:12:14,720 --> 02:12:11,700
cold and coronavirus and and and flus

2575
02:12:17,840 --> 02:12:14,730
which kill you know so many people each

2576
02:12:20,570 --> 02:12:17,850
year is that something that you know if

2577
02:12:24,110 --> 02:12:20,580
it is indeed safe is that something that

2578
02:12:26,420 --> 02:12:24,120
we should all consider the jury's out

2579
02:12:30,430 --> 02:12:26,430
for me I've got a I've got a way for the

2580
02:12:33,770 --> 02:12:30,440
data to come in and I don't want to be

2581
02:12:36,500 --> 02:12:33,780
how do I say this correctly I don't want

2582
02:12:38,930 --> 02:12:36,510
to suggest that I'm an anti-vaxxer but

2583
02:12:42,650 --> 02:12:38,940
when it comes to autism and and what is

2584
02:12:44,630 --> 02:12:42,660
played out in the movie VAX that that's

2585
02:12:46,310 --> 02:12:44,640
something else altogether isn't it we're

2586
02:12:48,580 --> 02:12:46,320
talking about two different two

2587
02:12:52,700 --> 02:12:48,590
different types of vaccinations here

2588
02:12:55,550 --> 02:12:52,710
well all I can say is this that I've

2589
02:12:59,000 --> 02:12:55,560
never known in my own life anyone who

2590
02:13:02,570 --> 02:12:59,010
and it was apparently made autistic by

2591
02:13:05,060 --> 02:13:02,580
by it so I'm sure people have and it's

2592
02:13:07,970 --> 02:13:05,070
tragic when that happens but I don't

2593
02:13:11,150 --> 02:13:07,980
know that the I saw the movie and I've

2594
02:13:13,730 --> 02:13:11,160
also read a lot about this whole issue

2595
02:13:15,640 --> 02:13:13,740
and I'm not so sure that it's clear that

2596
02:13:19,610 --> 02:13:15,650
there is a definite connection between

2597
02:13:22,730 --> 02:13:19,620
vaccines and autism especially modern

2598
02:13:24,980 --> 02:13:22,740
vaccines I mean God knows what was in

2599
02:13:26,979 --> 02:13:24,990
what I took the polio vaccine you know

2600
02:13:31,840 --> 02:13:26,989
anything about that Danna nice

2601
02:13:34,150 --> 02:13:31,850
fine we all got it you know yeah you've

2602
02:13:36,190 --> 02:13:34,160
got it probably got it - yo I absolutely

2603
02:13:39,370 --> 02:13:36,200
got it I went through here you know and

2604
02:13:43,510 --> 02:13:39,380
I remember I've spoken about this enough

2605
02:13:46,090 --> 02:13:43,520
I remember being in school it seemed

2606
02:13:50,500 --> 02:13:46,100
like every single year you know we we

2607
02:13:55,180 --> 02:13:50,510
got our shots that's it yeah and we

2608
02:13:56,459 --> 02:13:55,190
lined up like like cattle you know we

2609
02:13:59,020 --> 02:13:56,469
didn't we didn't question anything

2610
02:14:02,229 --> 02:13:59,030
rolled up our sleeves got our shots and

2611
02:14:06,280 --> 02:14:02,239
when went about our business and you

2612
02:14:09,250 --> 02:14:06,290
know in the summer I had to I was taken

2613
02:14:12,280 --> 02:14:09,260
to our country house and and left to

2614
02:14:15,280 --> 02:14:12,290
stay with the caretaker and his wife

2615
02:14:19,780 --> 02:14:15,290
when the polio was around they wouldn't

2616
02:14:22,000 --> 02:14:19,790
let me even stay at home my sister

2617
02:14:23,560 --> 02:14:22,010
stayed at home because she didn't she

2618
02:14:25,450 --> 02:14:23,570
was a little older and she didn't want

2619
02:14:27,459 --> 02:14:25,460
to be isolated like that and she got it

2620
02:14:29,760 --> 02:14:27,469
actually she didn't get a very bad case

2621
02:14:31,900 --> 02:14:29,770
of it thankfully but she did get it and

2622
02:14:36,790 --> 02:14:31,910
some of the children in the neighborhood

2623
02:14:37,900 --> 02:14:36,800
were law we lost some of them died and

2624
02:14:44,020 --> 02:14:37,910
so I was pretty creepy

2625
02:14:46,000 --> 02:14:44,030
i I I never forget the summer that I had

2626
02:14:48,640 --> 02:14:46,010
polio vaccine and didn't have to do that

2627
02:14:50,490 --> 02:14:48,650
anymore it was wonderful now listen you

2628
02:14:56,350 --> 02:14:50,500
know I found this stuff about this

2629
02:14:57,700 --> 02:14:56,360
special time of night the the that we

2630
02:14:59,200 --> 02:14:57,710
were going to talk about earlier and I

2631
02:15:01,810 --> 02:14:59,210
couldn't remember it and I know the

2632
02:15:04,870 --> 02:15:01,820
listeners are interested so sure yeah

2633
02:15:07,600 --> 02:15:04,880
let's talk about it now this is the

2634
02:15:10,930 --> 02:15:07,610
amazing thing back in the 90s I was

2635
02:15:14,470 --> 02:15:10,940
meditating with some individuals as it's

2636
02:15:17,260 --> 02:15:14,480
in I guess it's in my book well I I

2637
02:15:21,910 --> 02:15:17,270
think it's certainly in Supernatural I

2638
02:15:26,740 --> 02:15:21,920
anyway they were very physical at times

2639
02:15:30,640 --> 02:15:26,750
and and it's also in solving a communion

2640
02:15:32,380 --> 02:15:30,650
enigma in more detail and they would

2641
02:15:35,590 --> 02:15:32,390
wake me up at 3 o'clock in the morning

2642
02:15:37,870 --> 02:15:35,600
to meditate every morning and they

2643
02:15:39,970 --> 02:15:37,880
really wanted that and then we lost the

2644
02:15:40,290 --> 02:15:39,980
cabin and ran out of money and moved to

2645
02:15:42,299 --> 02:15:40,300
tech

2646
02:15:45,089 --> 02:15:42,309
it's not quit doing it forgot about it

2647
02:15:48,060 --> 02:15:45,099
then after Annie died it start as I said

2648
02:15:49,830 --> 02:15:48,070
earlier it started again and as someone

2649
02:15:52,020 --> 02:15:49,840
on my way I never occurred to me to ask

2650
02:15:54,569 --> 02:15:52,030
the implant about it I just assumed it

2651
02:15:58,169 --> 02:15:54,579
was quiet and that's why they wanted to

2652
02:15:59,970 --> 02:15:58,179
do it then and someone on an unknown

2653
02:16:03,240 --> 02:15:59,980
country and one of the message boards

2654
02:16:05,700 --> 02:16:03,250
said posted this thing about this time

2655
02:16:11,280 --> 02:16:05,710
of night that is known as Brahma

2656
02:16:15,780 --> 02:16:11,290
muhurtham and I was stunned when I read

2657
02:16:23,359 --> 02:16:15,790
it read this here's this there's a

2658
02:16:27,419 --> 02:16:23,369
website called sada guru org sa d hg u R

2659
02:16:33,150 --> 02:16:27,429
u org where you can find information

2660
02:16:36,540 --> 02:16:33,160
about it it turns out that the time the

2661
02:16:40,559 --> 02:16:36,550
brahma muhurta time is anywhere between

2662
02:16:45,320 --> 02:16:40,569
3:30 to 5:30 or 6 a.m. or whatever is

2663
02:16:49,650 --> 02:16:45,330
the time of sunrise and this is the time

2664
02:16:53,459 --> 02:16:49,660
when the last quarter of the night when

2665
02:16:57,599 --> 02:16:53,469
it is possible to become brahmam or

2666
02:17:03,120 --> 02:16:57,609
creator and make yourself the way you

2667
02:17:05,370 --> 02:17:03,130
want to be it says here and it says the

2668
02:17:07,259 --> 02:17:05,380
nature of the planets relationship with

2669
02:17:10,980 --> 02:17:07,269
the Sun and Moon and is such that

2670
02:17:13,020 --> 02:17:10,990
certain physiologic logical changes

2671
02:17:16,230 --> 02:17:13,030
happen during in the human system at

2672
02:17:18,299 --> 02:17:16,240
this time medical science has even found

2673
02:17:20,700 --> 02:17:18,309
that the waste material in your body

2674
02:17:22,410 --> 02:17:20,710
such as your urine for example has

2675
02:17:24,990 --> 02:17:22,420
certain qualities at that time which

2676
02:17:28,110 --> 02:17:25,000
does not have any other time of day well

2677
02:17:30,330 --> 02:17:28,120
I'm not interested in that I'm good I

2678
02:17:34,110 --> 02:17:30,340
don't know I want to learn more about it

2679
02:17:36,990 --> 02:17:34,120
but anyway the entire body is in a

2680
02:17:39,290 --> 02:17:37,000
certain conducive atmosphere and there

2681
02:17:42,240 --> 02:17:39,300
is a natural production of melatonin

2682
02:17:46,980 --> 02:17:42,250
seek being secreted by the pineal gland

2683
02:17:52,830 --> 02:17:46,990
and it is during its maximum during the

2684
02:17:53,890 --> 02:17:52,840
brahma muhurta time and you can m''d is

2685
02:17:57,730 --> 02:17:53,900
very stable

2686
02:18:01,121 --> 02:17:57,740
and you can it says you're bringing

2687
02:18:03,760 --> 02:18:01,131
yourself to ease and it goes on like

2688
02:18:07,871 --> 02:18:03,770
that and you know I I've now been doing

2689
02:18:11,410 --> 02:18:07,881
it literally every night since September

2690
02:18:13,570 --> 02:18:11,420
of 2015 and if I don't I don't want an

2691
02:18:14,680 --> 02:18:13,580
alarm clock I want as I said earlier to

2692
02:18:17,581 --> 02:18:14,690
do it organically

2693
02:18:20,530 --> 02:18:17,591
mm-hmm-hmm I wanted to be part of me and

2694
02:18:21,880 --> 02:18:20,540
and I wanted to be part of my engagement

2695
02:18:23,770 --> 02:18:21,890
with whatever's out there because they

2696
02:18:25,060 --> 02:18:23,780
will wake me up if I don't wake up and I

2697
02:18:27,550 --> 02:18:25,070
want that to happen

2698
02:18:30,010 --> 02:18:27,560
I want that engagement if I could get it

2699
02:18:34,690 --> 02:18:30,020
anything I can any engagement I can get

2700
02:18:38,260 --> 02:18:34,700
teaches me more every time so I'm never

2701
02:18:42,340 --> 02:18:38,270
tired I'm never tired here's my day I

2702
02:18:47,170 --> 02:18:42,350
wake up about 6:30 or 7:00 I usually

2703
02:18:50,140 --> 02:18:47,180
ride my my bike now indoors but earlier

2704
02:18:52,871 --> 02:18:50,150
outdoors I ride the indoor bike until

2705
02:18:57,570 --> 02:18:52,881
I've gotten 15 minutes with my heart

2706
02:19:01,780 --> 02:18:57,580
rate at a certain level above 115 and

2707
02:19:03,820 --> 02:19:01,790
then I have my day and my day lasts and

2708
02:19:05,980 --> 02:19:03,830
basically until 11 o'clock at night when

2709
02:19:07,900 --> 02:19:05,990
I meditate for between half an hour and

2710
02:19:10,180 --> 02:19:07,910
an hour do the sensing exercise

2711
02:19:12,130 --> 02:19:10,190
depending on how well it's going and how

2712
02:19:14,410 --> 02:19:12,140
deep I'm getting I you know it depends

2713
02:19:16,950 --> 02:19:14,420
on no longer the better I do the bed

2714
02:19:20,710 --> 02:19:16,960
longer I'll stay then I sleep until

2715
02:19:23,530 --> 02:19:20,720
about 3:30 3 3:30 around in there

2716
02:19:26,890 --> 02:19:23,540
I either wake up or they wake me up I do

2717
02:19:30,360 --> 02:19:26,900
it the exercise again for another half

2718
02:19:33,970 --> 02:19:30,370
hour to an hour then I sleep again until

2719
02:19:40,960 --> 02:19:33,980
6:30 or 7:00 and that's my life and I'm

2720
02:19:44,430 --> 02:19:40,970
never tired at all at all the the other

2721
02:19:47,770 --> 02:19:44,440
part about this now I've often wondered

2722
02:19:52,530 --> 02:19:47,780
if that includes myself by the way

2723
02:19:55,720 --> 02:19:52,540
Whitley that if people go through this

2724
02:19:59,020 --> 02:19:55,730
completely naturally without practicing

2725
02:20:05,360 --> 02:19:59,030
it and recognize what is going on but

2726
02:20:07,639 --> 02:20:05,370
thought that it was just a thing yeah

2727
02:20:12,500 --> 02:20:07,649
yeah I've often wondered that because

2728
02:20:14,810 --> 02:20:12,510
I've never done a traditional meditation

2729
02:20:17,150 --> 02:20:14,820
where I went through steps right one two

2730
02:20:21,410 --> 02:20:17,160
three four five six I've never done that

2731
02:20:26,870 --> 02:20:21,420
but I've certainly gone into zones that

2732
02:20:29,389 --> 02:20:26,880
I think are meditative right but it's

2733
02:20:31,880 --> 02:20:29,399
just completely in a natural way because

2734
02:20:34,460 --> 02:20:31,890
people talk about waking up at 3:30 all

2735
02:20:38,000 --> 02:20:34,470
the time waking up at 4:00 in the

2736
02:20:39,889 --> 02:20:38,010
morning in these states and and have

2737
02:20:42,380 --> 02:20:39,899
often questioned what is going on

2738
02:20:44,900 --> 02:20:42,390
including relatives of mine by the way

2739
02:20:47,120 --> 02:20:44,910
but they're not meditators right they're

2740
02:20:51,200 --> 02:20:47,130
not practicing it but something is

2741
02:20:53,780 --> 02:20:51,210
happening well the body wants to engage

2742
02:20:55,910 --> 02:20:53,790
at this level at that time of day that's

2743
02:20:59,510 --> 02:20:55,920
probably probably been happening to

2744
02:21:03,610 --> 02:20:59,520
people a long time and these Indian

2745
02:21:06,050 --> 02:21:03,620
Yogi's figured this out and made

2746
02:21:08,000 --> 02:21:06,060
institutionalized and then and they came

2747
02:21:10,130 --> 02:21:08,010
to understand it is what happened and

2748
02:21:11,810 --> 02:21:10,140
it's exciting to me because I've been

2749
02:21:14,420 --> 02:21:11,820
doing it for so long and I didn't even

2750
02:21:17,450 --> 02:21:14,430
know that there was any tradition of it

2751
02:21:21,139 --> 02:21:17,460
at all and now I do which is wonderful

2752
02:21:23,210 --> 02:21:21,149
now I wanted to get to this also I know

2753
02:21:24,830 --> 02:21:23,220
it's it's starting to get a little bit

2754
02:21:27,469 --> 02:21:24,840
late but if you want to continue the

2755
02:21:29,420 --> 02:21:27,479
conversation we can do it after this

2756
02:21:32,090 --> 02:21:29,430
next to break but before we get there

2757
02:21:36,790 --> 02:21:32,100
I'm gonna get this in is has there been

2758
02:21:40,790 --> 02:21:36,800
any reference from the visitors about a

2759
02:21:42,710 --> 02:21:40,800
global crowd control situation that this

2760
02:21:47,179 --> 02:21:42,720
is something that has been implemented

2761
02:21:49,940 --> 02:21:47,189
by the dark side for for control for

2762
02:21:53,240 --> 02:21:49,950
control of the planet no I don't have

2763
02:21:56,889 --> 02:21:53,250
that in my life I'm not aware I mean I

2764
02:21:59,450 --> 02:21:56,899
know there is no dark side in my life I

2765
02:22:01,880 --> 02:21:59,460
I wouldn't know what it might or might

2766
02:22:05,030 --> 02:22:01,890
not be doing or even as it exists except

2767
02:22:09,969 --> 02:22:05,040
inside us I see the dark side is being

2768
02:22:12,590 --> 02:22:09,979
fear under another name and what I

2769
02:22:16,820 --> 02:22:12,600
experience is often very intense and

2770
02:22:18,980 --> 02:22:16,830
difficult but it if I look at it

2771
02:22:21,110 --> 02:22:18,990
squarely I always find

2772
02:22:24,171 --> 02:22:21,120
something of value there even when it is

2773
02:22:27,591 --> 02:22:24,181
its most difficult and that has been

2774
02:22:29,810 --> 02:22:27,601
I've had the worst things that you can

2775
02:22:36,470 --> 02:22:29,820
have happen in this experience happened

2776
02:22:40,030 --> 02:22:36,480
to me and my wife and my choice is to

2777
02:22:44,600 --> 02:22:40,040
make it mine and make it valuable to me

2778
02:22:47,180 --> 02:22:44,610
no matter what to flip it over exactly

2779
02:22:50,240 --> 02:22:47,190
100 million agreed the dark side comes

2780
02:22:55,430 --> 02:22:50,250
into my life it gets flipped over and I

2781
02:23:00,860 --> 02:22:55,440
use it for my own benefit whatever it

2782
02:23:04,790 --> 02:23:00,870
does and tries is that the best is that

2783
02:23:07,400 --> 02:23:04,800
the best that the the media and state

2784
02:23:09,051 --> 02:23:07,410
actors right now can do is implement the

2785
02:23:10,480 --> 02:23:09,061
fear card like they've been doing for

2786
02:23:13,520 --> 02:23:10,490
the last 3-4 months

2787
02:23:16,810 --> 02:23:13,530
well I think they have no choice if

2788
02:23:18,860 --> 02:23:16,820
people weren't afraid they would not

2789
02:23:22,490 --> 02:23:18,870
shelter and think and if they don't

2790
02:23:25,400 --> 02:23:22,500
shelter it's very clear what happens is

2791
02:23:26,870 --> 02:23:25,410
what happened in Italy the whole place

2792
02:23:29,360 --> 02:23:26,880
practically broke down the whole

2793
02:23:32,091 --> 02:23:29,370
northern half of Italy was riddled with

2794
02:23:34,250 --> 02:23:32,101
this stuff and and then in Spain the

2795
02:23:37,720 --> 02:23:34,260
same thing happened and here it's

2796
02:23:40,881 --> 02:23:37,730
happened in pockets like New York City

2797
02:23:44,091 --> 02:23:40,891
Minoo you can't you can't play games

2798
02:23:47,540 --> 02:23:44,101
with this and I think that looking at it

2799
02:23:49,430 --> 02:23:47,550
politically like that is the really the

2800
02:23:53,511 --> 02:23:49,440
wrong way to go

2801
02:23:55,430 --> 02:23:53,521
it just it isn't politics people make it

2802
02:23:59,421 --> 02:23:55,440
into a political thing and you can see

2803
02:24:00,950 --> 02:23:59,431
these things you're you know my First

2804
02:24:02,930 --> 02:24:00,960
Amendment rights or these rights are

2805
02:24:06,830 --> 02:24:02,940
those rights the people are talking

2806
02:24:09,830 --> 02:24:06,840
about the only right that counts is the

2807
02:24:12,381 --> 02:24:09,840
right to live a peaceful healthy and

2808
02:24:15,370 --> 02:24:12,391
prosperous life this is what we're

2809
02:24:19,341 --> 02:24:15,380
looking for all of us all over the world

2810
02:24:22,910 --> 02:24:19,351
and especially right now and I might

2811
02:24:27,950 --> 02:24:22,920
focus is how do we figure out how to do

2812
02:24:32,280 --> 02:24:27,960
that fast and as I said earlier the key

2813
02:24:34,290 --> 02:24:32,290
is really very clear we have to find out

2814
02:24:38,460 --> 02:24:34,300
is really vulnerable and be able to

2815
02:24:40,650 --> 02:24:38,470
identify them and as far as leaders

2816
02:24:43,349 --> 02:24:40,660
using this to exert a new level of

2817
02:24:47,599 --> 02:24:43,359
control that's going to happen and it'll

2818
02:24:52,920 --> 02:24:47,609
fade away too sooner or later I mean the

2819
02:24:57,030 --> 02:24:52,930
Apple and Google tracking systems will

2820
02:24:59,929 --> 02:24:57,040
be deployed and people will use them and

2821
02:25:03,530 --> 02:24:59,939
they might or might not be helpful and

2822
02:25:06,929 --> 02:25:03,540
Google and Apple will not turn them off

2823
02:25:10,219 --> 02:25:06,939
but people will people will turn them

2824
02:25:12,240 --> 02:25:10,229
off I'll turn them off as soon as I can

2825
02:25:16,590 --> 02:25:12,250
versus talking to a person who doesn't

2826
02:25:20,309 --> 02:25:16,600
even have Wi-Fi right that was my point

2827
02:25:23,670 --> 02:25:20,319
that there's another benefit of this

2828
02:25:27,540 --> 02:25:23,680
Whitley and that is people wanting to

2829
02:25:30,120 --> 02:25:27,550
connect with you or other programs like

2830
02:25:32,490 --> 02:25:30,130
this and conversations that haven't had

2831
02:25:34,290 --> 02:25:32,500
the time before maybe it's too late at

2832
02:25:36,330 --> 02:25:34,300
night they're too busy but but now

2833
02:25:40,200 --> 02:25:36,340
everybody's got time on their hands and

2834
02:25:43,200 --> 02:25:40,210
they're also concerned so have you seen

2835
02:25:49,139 --> 02:25:43,210
a rise in people reaching out to you for

2836
02:25:53,219 --> 02:25:49,149
for information people reach out to me

2837
02:25:57,059 --> 02:25:53,229
for strength and calmness because I'm

2838
02:26:01,139 --> 02:25:57,069
I'm very much at peace in myself I just

2839
02:26:04,050 --> 02:26:01,149
am now I've been through so much in a

2840
02:26:07,380 --> 02:26:04,060
long lifetime of contending with the

2841
02:26:13,440 --> 02:26:07,390
often contentious and difficult visitors

2842
02:26:18,120 --> 02:26:13,450
and the media mockery and all the trolls

2843
02:26:20,160 --> 02:26:18,130
and well like example just perfect

2844
02:26:21,690 --> 02:26:20,170
example I have a computer I've been

2845
02:26:25,139 --> 02:26:21,700
trying to sell it I tried to sell it on

2846
02:26:27,000 --> 02:26:25,149
eBay I made the mistake of putting up on

2847
02:26:30,150 --> 02:26:27,010
my Facebook page that it was for sale

2848
02:26:34,559 --> 02:26:30,160
and so what happens a guy comes along

2849
02:26:37,860 --> 02:26:34,569
and bids out everybody else and then

2850
02:26:43,290 --> 02:26:37,870
doesn't pay for the specific purpose of

2851
02:26:45,240 --> 02:26:43,300
sabotaging me and that is my life am I

2852
02:26:46,029 --> 02:26:45,250
disappointed yeah I would like to sell

2853
02:26:50,229 --> 02:26:46,039
the computer

2854
02:26:51,939 --> 02:26:50,239
am I surprised no am i angry and eaten

2855
02:26:56,139 --> 02:26:51,949
up by it not at all

2856
02:27:07,239 --> 02:26:56,149
not anymore I just roll along with the

2857
02:27:11,439 --> 02:27:07,249
waves picture and I've tried to project

2858
02:27:16,059 --> 02:27:11,449
this on this show that I walk around in

2859
02:27:19,599 --> 02:27:16,069
and the Zen estate that I can I just

2860
02:27:21,849 --> 02:27:19,609
live my life point of living otherwise

2861
02:27:27,069 --> 02:27:21,859
if you don't that's right have that have

2862
02:27:28,689 --> 02:27:27,079
access to joy now that you have to you

2863
02:27:31,029 --> 02:27:28,699
have to you have to you have to find

2864
02:27:34,749 --> 02:27:31,039
your place in joy that's the whole

2865
02:27:36,219 --> 02:27:34,759
there's no other reason to be alive so I

2866
02:27:38,589 --> 02:27:36,229
know people I know people who were rich

2867
02:27:40,599 --> 02:27:38,599
and just concentrate on getting richer

2868
02:27:42,729 --> 02:27:40,609
and richer and richer and I said to one

2869
02:27:44,199 --> 02:27:42,739
of them I said one guy's a multi billion

2870
02:27:47,589 --> 02:27:44,209
of course he doesn't think to help other

2871
02:27:49,659 --> 02:27:47,599
people like this poor guy mm-hmm and but

2872
02:27:52,329 --> 02:27:49,669
you know people always say well if I

2873
02:27:54,929 --> 02:27:52,339
doesn't so and so healthy I said he's

2874
02:27:58,989 --> 02:27:54,939
not a billionaire because he's generous

2875
02:28:03,159 --> 02:27:58,999
okay that the Bill Gates's are few and

2876
02:28:06,669 --> 02:28:03,169
far between in this world so but what's

2877
02:28:11,079 --> 02:28:06,679
the point once you have enough what does

2878
02:28:18,039 --> 02:28:11,089
more mean reminds me we're here to have

2879
02:28:21,059 --> 02:28:18,049
a joyous life not to not to do things

2880
02:28:27,389 --> 02:28:21,069
like that it reminds me of Ted Knight in

2881
02:28:35,799 --> 02:28:29,789
Ted Knight goes the world needs

2882
02:28:37,269 --> 02:28:35,809
ditch-diggers to class succeed can I get

2883
02:28:40,809 --> 02:28:37,279
you to hang on and continue the

2884
02:28:43,389 --> 02:28:40,819
conversation how long Jimmy I've three

2885
02:28:45,879 --> 02:28:43,399
hours Whitley you're not you're gonna go

2886
02:28:48,129 --> 02:28:45,889
from this show straight into meditation

2887
02:28:50,739 --> 02:28:48,139
how's that Oh God

2888
02:28:54,069 --> 02:28:50,749
let's give me a house I'll see if I can

2889
02:28:56,649 --> 02:28:54,079
do it by I'll go for another half hour

2890
02:28:59,149 --> 02:28:56,659
but I think sitting in Frank frankly in

2891
02:29:00,949 --> 02:28:59,159
a room that's like Ivan Pavan

2892
02:29:02,569 --> 02:29:00,959
I know it's not air conditions and I

2893
02:29:06,050 --> 02:29:02,579
can't open the windows will anoint my

2894
02:29:08,569 --> 02:29:06,060
voice will annoy them exactly yeah 20

2895
02:29:10,760 --> 02:29:08,579
minutes and and we'll call it a night

2896
02:29:11,719 --> 02:29:10,770
but thank you so much another great

2897
02:29:13,639 --> 02:29:11,729
conversation

2898
02:29:16,309 --> 02:29:13,649
stay right there everybody we're gonna

2899
02:29:18,919 --> 02:29:16,319
go do some overtime with Whitley

2900
02:29:20,209 --> 02:29:18,929
Strieber this is fade to black I am your

2901
02:29:21,829 --> 02:29:20,219
host Jimmy Church he thought I was

2902
02:29:24,439 --> 02:29:21,839
serious about the three hours by the way

2903
02:29:26,659 --> 02:29:24,449
let's take a quick break and we'll be

2904
02:29:29,119 --> 02:29:26,669
right back follow me on twitter @ JT

2905
02:29:31,760 --> 02:29:29,129
radio and you can follow whitley on

2906
02:29:34,369 --> 02:29:31,770
twitter at whitley strieber we've got it

2907
02:29:35,330 --> 02:29:34,379
all right up in our feed stay with us

2908
02:29:52,390 --> 02:29:35,340
we'll be right back

2909
02:29:55,220 --> 02:29:52,400
[Music]

2910
02:29:57,740 --> 02:29:55,230
goodbye dear and you are listening to my

2911
02:30:03,161 --> 02:29:57,750
boy Jimmy Church Oh Jimmy Church

2912
02:30:07,370 --> 02:30:03,171
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2913
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2977
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2978
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welcome back pain to black our guest

2979
02:33:35,019 --> 02:33:32,689
tonight Whitley Strieber we're gonna go

2980
02:33:36,610 --> 02:33:35,029
straight into some overtime who want to

2981
02:33:38,050 --> 02:33:36,620
remind everybody what's going on this

2982
02:33:40,870 --> 02:33:38,060
week tomorrow night Johnny

2983
02:33:43,030 --> 02:33:40,880
Enoch joins the show Wednesday night

2984
02:33:44,649 --> 02:33:43,040
Nick Redfern is here he's got a new book

2985
02:33:47,500 --> 02:33:44,659
out on Rendlesham and then of course

2986
02:33:50,349 --> 02:33:47,510
Thursday night is Fator night with open

2987
02:33:52,269 --> 02:33:50,359
lines all night long and back to Whitley

2988
02:33:54,040 --> 02:33:52,279
but Whitley I'm gonna change course I'm

2989
02:33:54,729 --> 02:33:54,050
gonna change course and catch you by

2990
02:33:59,559 --> 02:33:54,739
surprise

2991
02:34:01,929 --> 02:33:59,569
a week ago today a week ago the United

2992
02:34:05,679 --> 02:34:01,939
States Navy and the Pentagon announced

2993
02:34:10,240 --> 02:34:05,689
the official release of those three UFO

2994
02:34:14,200 --> 02:34:10,250
/ UAP videos the media grabbed on to the

2995
02:34:16,860 --> 02:34:14,210
story and tried to make it viral but the

2996
02:34:21,639 --> 02:34:16,870
response from the rest of the world

2997
02:34:24,280 --> 02:34:21,649
seemed to be very muted and I I'm not

2998
02:34:30,370 --> 02:34:24,290
sure why did that surprise you

2999
02:34:34,780 --> 02:34:30,380
not at all their response was muted for

3000
02:34:37,500 --> 02:34:34,790
a lot of reasons here's one of them is

3001
02:34:44,110 --> 02:34:37,510
that people were not exactly surprised

3002
02:34:46,149 --> 02:34:44,120
because they know anyone could see that

3003
02:34:48,330 --> 02:34:46,159
there was something very strange going

3004
02:34:51,939 --> 02:34:48,340
on you hear the voices of those pilots

3005
02:34:54,460 --> 02:34:51,949
and you know that's true and it's

3006
02:34:56,260 --> 02:34:54,470
obviously not something of ours no

3007
02:34:57,880 --> 02:34:56,270
matter what anyone says because this

3008
02:35:01,030 --> 02:34:57,890
would be a different world if we had

3009
02:35:06,820 --> 02:35:01,040
technology like that even if it was held

3010
02:35:09,550 --> 02:35:06,830
secret because that technology is it's

3011
02:35:11,740 --> 02:35:09,560
anti-gravity technology and if we had

3012
02:35:14,950 --> 02:35:11,750
any gravity devices that were secret

3013
02:35:17,790 --> 02:35:14,960
they would be like all other secret

3014
02:35:22,360 --> 02:35:17,800
stuff if you look back in the literature

3015
02:35:25,330 --> 02:35:22,370
10 years five years you would see the

3016
02:35:27,820 --> 02:35:25,340
beginnings of this just as you can if

3017
02:35:30,939 --> 02:35:27,830
you looked back in literature of stealth

3018
02:35:32,860 --> 02:35:30,949
aircraft years ago when they were very

3019
02:35:37,410 --> 02:35:32,870
secret you could see in the literature

3020
02:35:39,309 --> 02:35:37,420
the non-classified literature where that

3021
02:35:41,650 --> 02:35:39,319
technology was coming from I know

3022
02:35:44,500 --> 02:35:41,660
because I did that

3023
02:35:45,970 --> 02:35:44,510
and then that was before any of this

3024
02:35:47,980 --> 02:35:45,980
visitor stuff happened because I was

3025
02:35:49,480 --> 02:35:47,990
interested in that and I was writing

3026
02:35:52,480 --> 02:35:49,490
thrillers at the time and I thought I

3027
02:35:56,350 --> 02:35:52,490
could maybe make a thriller out of that

3028
02:35:59,591 --> 02:35:56,360
in any case I didn't but the in fact

3029
02:36:03,820 --> 02:35:59,601
that's the case there's nothing like

3030
02:36:05,980 --> 02:36:03,830
that there's nothing anywhere about

3031
02:36:08,530 --> 02:36:05,990
anything like that which means it's not

3032
02:36:11,051 --> 02:36:08,540
ours so people weren't

3033
02:36:13,060 --> 02:36:11,061
it was it was a it was a sort of a

3034
02:36:15,580 --> 02:36:13,070
ho-hum yeah they finally admitted what's

3035
02:36:18,850 --> 02:36:15,590
obvious but I've got a few questions

3036
02:36:23,730 --> 02:36:18,860
here what's that first here's my first

3037
02:36:29,680 --> 02:36:23,740
question why in the world does the Navy

3038
02:36:32,860 --> 02:36:29,690
first say that this they cannot release

3039
02:36:35,620 --> 02:36:32,870
any more of these files because it

3040
02:36:39,040 --> 02:36:35,630
involves a that would involve a grave

3041
02:36:42,610 --> 02:36:39,050
threat to our national security then a

3042
02:36:45,761 --> 02:36:42,620
few weeks later they say oh but this one

3043
02:36:47,080 --> 02:36:45,771
is definitely an unknown mm-hmm why are

3044
02:36:50,470 --> 02:36:47,090
they coming from where they

3045
02:36:54,910 --> 02:36:50,480
schizophrenics now also and what about

3046
02:36:57,520 --> 02:36:54,920
the US Air Force it's dead silent but

3047
02:36:59,920 --> 02:36:57,530
they've gotta have similar video of

3048
02:37:02,170 --> 02:36:59,930
course they do I'll tell you why it's

3049
02:37:05,140 --> 02:37:02,180
dead silent and this is the kind of

3050
02:37:08,770 --> 02:37:05,150
thing that we need to figure out how to

3051
02:37:11,950 --> 02:37:08,780
fix it is dead silent because its

3052
02:37:16,600 --> 02:37:11,960
mission is to protect the United States

3053
02:37:18,220 --> 02:37:16,610
from threats from above and it can't do

3054
02:37:20,591 --> 02:37:18,230
it in this case and I've heard you

3055
02:37:23,261 --> 02:37:20,601
upload vestigators say but it's there's

3056
02:37:28,110 --> 02:37:23,271
no threat well I'm sorry

3057
02:37:31,360 --> 02:37:28,120
come into my bedroom on December the 26

3058
02:37:35,950 --> 02:37:31,370
1985 and I will show you a threat that

3059
02:37:38,980 --> 02:37:35,960
they could not protect me from and to

3060
02:37:43,511 --> 02:37:38,990
their everlasting shame they never

3061
02:37:46,530 --> 02:37:43,521
warned any of us about this possibility

3062
02:37:52,720 --> 02:37:46,540
so when this comes to you in the night

3063
02:37:55,540 --> 02:37:52,730
you have no way at all of expecting it

3064
02:37:58,030 --> 02:37:55,550
our or knowing what to do if anything

3065
02:38:00,250 --> 02:37:58,040
the reason is there's nothing we can do

3066
02:38:03,100 --> 02:38:00,260
there's nothing they can do they can't

3067
02:38:05,591 --> 02:38:03,110
protect us from this so what is their

3068
02:38:07,120 --> 02:38:05,601
mission well their mission has to be to

3069
02:38:08,620 --> 02:38:07,130
protect us from the Chinese and the

3070
02:38:10,120 --> 02:38:08,630
Russians and people like that that they

3071
02:38:11,680 --> 02:38:10,130
can protect us from and they do a very

3072
02:38:14,200 --> 02:38:11,690
good job of that and more power to it

3073
02:38:15,790 --> 02:38:14,210
they need to admit the fact that this is

3074
02:38:18,400 --> 02:38:15,800
an unknown and we can do a darn thing

3075
02:38:20,560 --> 02:38:18,410
about it they all do that's where this

3076
02:38:22,060 --> 02:38:20,570
needs to go and when it goes down that

3077
02:38:26,230 --> 02:38:22,070
road then the public is going to be

3078
02:38:28,961 --> 02:38:26,240
interested again now why is it Whitley

3079
02:38:32,770 --> 02:38:28,971
and I know that you've thought about

3080
02:38:36,461 --> 02:38:32,780
this that and it's probably pretty close

3081
02:38:40,591 --> 02:38:36,471
to 5050 in that anybody that sees these

3082
02:38:44,551 --> 02:38:40,601
videos is divided into two groups

3083
02:38:47,711 --> 02:38:44,561
probably 50/50 in that the one side

3084
02:38:50,171 --> 02:38:47,721
doesn't see anything extraterrestrial or

3085
02:38:52,030 --> 02:38:50,181
strange about the videos and then you've

3086
02:38:55,600 --> 02:38:52,040
got the other group immediately without

3087
02:38:59,770 --> 02:38:55,610
a gray area in the middle that see

3088
02:39:02,080 --> 02:38:59,780
nothing but something strange and quite

3089
02:39:04,421 --> 02:39:02,090
possibly off planet and for them there's

3090
02:39:07,240 --> 02:39:04,431
no question about what they are seeing

3091
02:39:10,720 --> 02:39:07,250
how can it be such a divide when we're

3092
02:39:12,610 --> 02:39:10,730
all seeing the same videos well it's

3093
02:39:16,060 --> 02:39:12,620
because people think differently and

3094
02:39:19,421 --> 02:39:16,070
their minds work differently as far as

3095
02:39:22,570 --> 02:39:19,431
this is concerned they're called the

3096
02:39:27,610 --> 02:39:22,580
greys for a reason I think it is because

3097
02:39:29,711 --> 02:39:27,620
this is all a gray area well these

3098
02:39:32,711 --> 02:39:29,721
things could be from off-planet

3099
02:39:34,180 --> 02:39:32,721
or they could be from here in some way

3100
02:39:36,520 --> 02:39:34,190
that we don't understand it a little

3101
02:39:40,180 --> 02:39:36,530
while ago we're talking about a parallel

3102
02:39:45,040 --> 02:39:40,190
universe that exists right here maybe

3103
02:39:48,370 --> 02:39:45,050
that's where they're from I mean this is

3104
02:39:52,330 --> 02:39:48,380
so complicated the beauty of all of this

3105
02:39:55,211 --> 02:39:52,340
is and the fun of it is it just gets

3106
02:39:57,490 --> 02:39:55,221
weirder and weirder and weirder the

3107
02:39:59,980 --> 02:39:57,500
closer you look at it the deeper you get

3108
02:40:02,350 --> 02:39:59,990
into it the more you know about it the

3109
02:40:05,551 --> 02:40:02,360
more you know the visitors and as I say

3110
02:40:08,140 --> 02:40:05,561
I live with them now they're my life I

3111
02:40:08,599 --> 02:40:08,150
would be terribly lonely if I did not

3112
02:40:10,159 --> 02:40:08,609
have them

3113
02:40:13,639 --> 02:40:10,169
in my life I'm they're incredibly

3114
02:40:14,119 --> 02:40:13,649
valuable companions now but what are

3115
02:40:19,359 --> 02:40:14,129
they

3116
02:40:21,800 --> 02:40:19,369
you have no idea I just live with it and

3117
02:40:23,929 --> 02:40:21,810
we have to do the same thing with this

3118
02:40:26,300 --> 02:40:23,939
whole thing and maybe maybe they're

3119
02:40:28,219 --> 02:40:26,310
gonna maybe they're gonna suck me up in

3120
02:40:30,769 --> 02:40:28,229
the end and eat me for lunch

3121
02:40:32,719 --> 02:40:30,779
I don't have any idea but not now it

3122
02:40:38,689 --> 02:40:32,729
hasn't happened today and so I'm still

3123
02:40:41,989 --> 02:40:38,699
going where will this go well probably

3124
02:40:45,500 --> 02:40:41,999
the Navy hopes it'll go away and you

3125
02:40:48,769 --> 02:40:45,510
have this strange I mean I found it find

3126
02:40:53,569 --> 02:40:48,779
it quite strange this group TTS a which

3127
02:40:56,290 --> 02:40:53,579
is a group of intelligence officers

3128
02:40:58,729 --> 02:40:56,300
basically some of whom I know and are

3129
02:41:01,130 --> 02:40:58,739
lovely people and known one of them

3130
02:41:03,710 --> 02:41:01,140
helped put off for most of my adult life

3131
02:41:05,929 --> 02:41:03,720
and he's a marvelous brilliant man

3132
02:41:08,899 --> 02:41:05,939
one of them and one of the sweetest

3133
02:41:11,210 --> 02:41:08,909
nicest people I've ever met on the one

3134
02:41:13,250 --> 02:41:11,220
hand and on the other hand he's also the

3135
02:41:15,380 --> 02:41:13,260
most expert secret-keeper I've ever met

3136
02:41:19,399 --> 02:41:15,390
in my life he's just a master of it and

3137
02:41:21,170 --> 02:41:19,409
he knows a lot of Secrets but people are

3138
02:41:23,330 --> 02:41:21,180
uneasy you know when they see these

3139
02:41:24,830 --> 02:41:23,340
people's credentials the credentials are

3140
02:41:27,109 --> 02:41:24,840
impressive but then they think well wait

3141
02:41:28,239 --> 02:41:27,119
a minute this is the intelligence

3142
02:41:29,420 --> 02:41:28,249
community and they've got a

3143
02:41:33,409 --> 02:41:29,430
rock-and-roller

3144
02:41:35,899 --> 02:41:33,419
as their front man to to attract the

3145
02:41:38,899 --> 02:41:35,909
attention of the media it all looks like

3146
02:41:41,809 --> 02:41:38,909
some kind of a setup mmm frankly mm-hmm

3147
02:41:43,909 --> 02:41:41,819
it's not organic like the people in the

3148
02:41:46,369 --> 02:41:43,919
in the close encounter experience is

3149
02:41:50,929 --> 02:41:46,379
totally organic we don't have any

3150
02:41:52,369 --> 02:41:50,939
intelligence officers running the puppet

3151
02:41:54,109 --> 02:41:52,379
strings from the background or anything

3152
02:41:55,130 --> 02:41:54,119
and I'm not saying they're necessarily

3153
02:41:57,679 --> 02:41:55,140
doing a bad job

3154
02:42:00,649 --> 02:41:57,689
I think Hal's a great guy and I think

3155
02:42:04,670 --> 02:42:00,659
he's probably doing a great job but the

3156
02:42:08,080 --> 02:42:04,680
public is not at ease with a situation

3157
02:42:11,510 --> 02:42:08,090
like that they feel that they can't tell

3158
02:42:13,969 --> 02:42:11,520
whether or not the stories are being

3159
02:42:17,029 --> 02:42:13,979
manipulated for reasons that are not

3160
02:42:18,439 --> 02:42:17,039
being explained I guess that's where I

3161
02:42:20,449 --> 02:42:18,449
think they come from and that's why

3162
02:42:22,490 --> 02:42:20,459
they're a little cool on this a little

3163
02:42:24,320 --> 02:42:22,500
hesitant about it there's not

3164
02:42:26,269 --> 02:42:24,330
the enthusiasm for it that you think

3165
02:42:28,340 --> 02:42:26,279
there would be because it's after all

3166
02:42:31,090 --> 02:42:28,350
looks like it's increasingly every day

3167
02:42:35,690 --> 02:42:31,100
like it's about contact for God's sakes

3168
02:42:40,040 --> 02:42:35,700
wonderful what an extraordinary thing do

3169
02:42:42,530 --> 02:42:40,050
you laugh we are got it is it let's that

3170
02:42:47,059 --> 02:42:42,540
that great I believe it's an Outer

3171
02:42:54,500 --> 02:42:47,069
Limits show where if it turns out that

3172
02:42:58,040 --> 02:42:54,510
the the book of Man is a cookbook I do

3173
02:43:01,070 --> 02:42:58,050
remember that actually I didn't it's

3174
02:43:04,849 --> 02:43:01,080
also in one of the those movies gotta

3175
02:43:08,030 --> 02:43:04,859
forget a very funny movie that that

3176
02:43:09,229 --> 02:43:08,040
plays on that but anyway I don't think

3177
02:43:12,050 --> 02:43:09,239
it's a cookbook and I don't think

3178
02:43:14,420 --> 02:43:12,060
they're here to invade us because the

3179
02:43:18,740 --> 02:43:14,430
visitors as I understand and know them

3180
02:43:20,210 --> 02:43:18,750
I've seen some of their skills if they

3181
02:43:21,800 --> 02:43:20,220
were here to invade us that would have

3182
02:43:24,860 --> 02:43:21,810
happened in about three seconds

3183
02:43:29,870 --> 02:43:24,870
and it didn't they're here for other

3184
02:43:32,889 --> 02:43:29,880
reasons do you think that even with TTS

3185
02:43:34,700 --> 02:43:32,899
A's staff you know like you just

3186
02:43:37,760 --> 02:43:34,710
suggested I mean it's rather obvious

3187
02:43:40,250 --> 02:43:37,770
when you can go and see everybody

3188
02:43:42,679 --> 02:43:40,260
Seavey's and credentials where they come

3189
02:43:45,800 --> 02:43:42,689
from different agencies inside of

3190
02:43:49,099 --> 02:43:45,810
Washington that now it's good two and a

3191
02:43:54,340 --> 02:43:49,109
half almost three years since the

3192
02:43:57,559 --> 02:43:54,350
revelations of December of 2017 no new

3193
02:44:01,400 --> 02:43:57,569
information has come forward from T TSA

3194
02:44:03,920 --> 02:44:01,410
with all of the connections that were

3195
02:44:06,559 --> 02:44:03,930
there do you think that they've dried up

3196
02:44:09,349 --> 02:44:06,569
that they've been cut off from access to

3197
02:44:11,570 --> 02:44:09,359
anything coming out of the Pentagon

3198
02:44:15,200 --> 02:44:11,580
because we're still looking at the same

3199
02:44:17,000 --> 02:44:15,210
three videos you know that would be a

3200
02:44:21,860 --> 02:44:17,010
guess and I think it's probably a good

3201
02:44:25,580 --> 02:44:21,870
guess because we have three videos this

3202
02:44:30,800 --> 02:44:25,590
has been going on for seventy years I've

3203
02:44:34,040 --> 02:44:30,810
got videos just as good that are there's

3204
02:44:35,990 --> 02:44:34,050
one of them from Puerto Rico yep I agree

3205
02:44:39,110 --> 02:44:36,000
that there is

3206
02:44:45,309 --> 02:44:39,120
is every bit as good as the TTS a videos

3207
02:44:47,960 --> 02:44:45,319
it was taken by a plane that was

3208
02:44:50,300 --> 02:44:47,970
following this thing and you know it

3209
02:44:53,780 --> 02:44:50,310
with an automatic camera and there are

3210
02:44:55,910 --> 02:44:53,790
others as well and you know I I sent

3211
02:44:58,030 --> 02:44:55,920
that video to one of these guys I'm not

3212
02:45:01,099 --> 02:44:58,040
gonna say which one but one of them

3213
02:45:03,110 --> 02:45:01,109
the Puerto Rico video and he sent me

3214
02:45:06,500 --> 02:45:03,120
back an email saying well we know all

3215
02:45:08,120 --> 02:45:06,510
about this we watched it we saw it

3216
02:45:11,179 --> 02:45:08,130
submerged we know how fast it's going

3217
02:45:13,519 --> 02:45:11,189
and he told me all the details of 1,400

3218
02:45:15,559 --> 02:45:13,529
feet and going some hundred miles an

3219
02:45:19,519 --> 02:45:15,569
hour or something I don't know what and

3220
02:45:26,090 --> 02:45:19,529
he said then it's not an unknown we know

3221
02:45:32,360 --> 02:45:26,100
what it is and I thought okay what is it

3222
02:45:33,729 --> 02:45:32,370
that email didn't get answered and it's

3223
02:45:37,160 --> 02:45:33,739
not ours

3224
02:45:44,150 --> 02:45:37,170
but they know what it is so why they

3225
02:45:46,099 --> 02:45:44,160
tell us yeah and I would say my response

3226
02:45:49,010 --> 02:45:46,109
to that and I spoke about this the other

3227
02:45:50,960 --> 02:45:49,020
night on coasts as well I've talked

3228
02:45:56,929 --> 02:45:50,970
about the Puerto Rico video quite a bit

3229
02:45:59,210 --> 02:45:56,939
my response to that is a TTS a had

3230
02:46:02,630 --> 02:45:59,220
nothing to do with that video or its

3231
02:46:06,830 --> 02:46:02,640
release therefore it's not part of their

3232
02:46:10,219 --> 02:46:06,840
program number one number two the other

3233
02:46:12,500 --> 02:46:10,229
part about the Puerto Rico video is I

3234
02:46:14,599 --> 02:46:12,510
think that the evidence in that video is

3235
02:46:18,979 --> 02:46:14,609
much more compelling than the three

3236
02:46:21,500 --> 02:46:18,989
videos released by T TSA and it just got

3237
02:46:24,500 --> 02:46:21,510
lost in the chatter over the last couple

3238
02:46:26,150 --> 02:46:24,510
of years it should be in buried in the

3239
02:46:29,570 --> 02:46:26,160
check yeah or buried in the chatter and

3240
02:46:32,479 --> 02:46:29,580
it should be as researched and talked

3241
02:46:34,040 --> 02:46:32,489
about who's the crew on the plane what

3242
02:46:37,519 --> 02:46:34,050
were they saying you know bring those

3243
02:46:40,519 --> 02:46:37,529
guys forward and gals and and let's find

3244
02:46:43,040 --> 02:46:40,529
out more information about it and it

3245
02:46:46,099 --> 02:46:43,050
should be as researched and discussed

3246
02:46:48,110 --> 02:46:46,109
and out there in the media just like

3247
02:46:48,849 --> 02:46:48,120
those other three videos and it's not

3248
02:46:52,149 --> 02:46:48,859
and I can

3249
02:46:56,889 --> 02:46:52,159
explain why well it's because somebody

3250
02:46:59,769 --> 02:46:56,899
doesn't want it to be simple is a simple

3251
02:47:02,519 --> 02:46:59,779
it's not and why not I

3252
02:47:05,590 --> 02:47:02,529
you know I've always had the sense that

3253
02:47:10,119 --> 02:47:05,600
if there are aliens here they might be

3254
02:47:13,479 --> 02:47:10,129
in control of the degree to which their

3255
02:47:15,460 --> 02:47:13,489
presence is being revealed in fact I

3256
02:47:19,809 --> 02:47:15,470
would assume they would be in control of

3257
02:47:23,290 --> 02:47:19,819
that that it's not us it's them and he

3258
02:47:27,389 --> 02:47:23,300
you know there was a article in the

3259
02:47:30,760 --> 02:47:27,399
magazine science in April of 1977 by two

3260
02:47:36,309 --> 02:47:30,770
physicists DBH Kuiper and Mark Morris

3261
02:47:39,670 --> 02:47:36,319
and they expressed the thought that if

3262
02:47:42,909 --> 02:47:39,680
aliens came here the only thing they

3263
02:47:45,670 --> 02:47:42,919
would want from us was whatever we had

3264
02:47:48,489 --> 02:47:45,680
that they did not know and that wouldn't

3265
02:47:51,519 --> 02:47:48,499
be much but one thing that would be very

3266
02:47:56,139 --> 02:47:51,529
clear is if they revealed themselves

3267
02:47:59,489 --> 02:47:56,149
then all of our cultural direction would

3268
02:48:02,170 --> 02:47:59,499
be turned toward them and whatever

3269
02:48:04,809 --> 02:48:02,180
newness and innovation we had to offer

3270
02:48:07,510 --> 02:48:04,819
would just disappear so they would have

3271
02:48:11,109 --> 02:48:07,520
a motive for keeping themselves hidden

3272
02:48:17,109 --> 02:48:11,119
and they might very well be compelling

3273
02:48:19,119 --> 02:48:17,119
our governments to keep the lid on and

3274
02:48:21,699 --> 02:48:19,129
they might not be doing that by sitting

3275
02:48:24,909 --> 02:48:21,709
down across a table from them I know

3276
02:48:27,609 --> 02:48:24,919
these people well a lot of them and I

3277
02:48:31,029 --> 02:48:27,619
can assure you they have things like the

3278
02:48:38,349 --> 02:48:31,039
control of the human mind down mm-hmm

3279
02:48:41,290 --> 02:48:38,359
and I learned it took a long time to get

3280
02:48:45,069 --> 02:48:41,300
a battle almost to get to the point

3281
02:48:47,800 --> 02:48:45,079
where I'm free of that but somebody who

3282
02:48:49,960 --> 02:48:47,810
doesn't know it exists is going to be

3283
02:48:53,319 --> 02:48:49,970
dancing to their tune and not even know

3284
02:48:55,479 --> 02:48:53,329
it and that yeah I can assure you is

3285
02:48:56,949 --> 02:48:55,489
going to happen in the intelligence

3286
02:48:59,409 --> 02:48:56,959
community because most of these people

3287
02:49:00,609 --> 02:48:59,419
are very they're very self-assured and

3288
02:49:02,740 --> 02:49:00,619
they think they know what they're doing

3289
02:49:07,961 --> 02:49:02,750
I deal

3290
02:49:11,291 --> 02:49:07,971
an ideal field of fire for someone who

3291
02:49:14,761 --> 02:49:11,301
wants to control their thoughts that

3292
02:49:17,770 --> 02:49:14,771
Twilight Zone episode was to serve man

3293
02:49:20,411 --> 02:49:17,780
desert man that's right yeah thank you

3294
02:49:22,780 --> 02:49:20,421
thank you yeah that wasn't me that was

3295
02:49:24,610 --> 02:49:22,790
Shanna one of the failure nots tweeted

3296
02:49:27,581 --> 02:49:24,620
that out that's why I love this audience

3297
02:49:29,560 --> 02:49:27,591
they make you and I looks much a fun

3298
02:49:31,631 --> 02:49:29,570
audience I love you guys by the way it's

3299
02:49:33,730 --> 02:49:31,641
always fun to be on fade to black and

3300
02:49:36,131 --> 02:49:33,740
you're a big part of the reason yeah

3301
02:49:38,950 --> 02:49:36,141
thank you for that Whitley and and you

3302
02:49:43,211 --> 02:49:38,960
know much respect and you know look I'm

3303
02:49:46,560 --> 02:49:43,221
gonna say this I spent so much time over

3304
02:49:48,970 --> 02:49:46,570
the years listening to your

3305
02:49:52,631 --> 02:49:48,980
conversations and your presentations

3306
02:49:56,440 --> 02:49:52,641
over on dreamland and and I learned so

3307
02:49:57,881 --> 02:49:56,450
much and your ability and then we're

3308
02:50:01,030 --> 02:49:57,891
gonna move on I want to make another

3309
02:50:03,511 --> 02:50:01,040
comment but your ability to engage in a

3310
02:50:08,850 --> 02:50:03,521
conversation with a guest or friend and

3311
02:50:11,470 --> 02:50:08,860
Dreamland was it's a lesson in in

3312
02:50:14,770 --> 02:50:11,480
conversation in how to do that naturally

3313
02:50:18,190 --> 02:50:14,780
and yeah if I can take well if I can

3314
02:50:23,411 --> 02:50:18,200
convey just a small piece of that

3315
02:50:24,970 --> 02:50:23,421
then I win so hopefully I learned it's

3316
02:50:27,280 --> 02:50:24,980
always fun to be here you know what

3317
02:50:29,560 --> 02:50:27,290
you're doing well I appreciate that now

3318
02:50:32,081 --> 02:50:29,570
going I'm gonna go back to the the

3319
02:50:35,440 --> 02:50:32,091
Puerto Rico video by the way because you

3320
02:50:39,251 --> 02:50:35,450
and I have not discussed it and

3321
02:50:41,470 --> 02:50:39,261
certainly prior to this show I did make

3322
02:50:43,390 --> 02:50:41,480
a point of bringing it up last week and

3323
02:50:48,730 --> 02:50:43,400
on coast to coast over the weekend and

3324
02:50:51,791 --> 02:50:48,740
the reason for that is this what I see

3325
02:50:55,121 --> 02:50:51,801
in the three T TSA videos or any other

3326
02:50:57,280 --> 02:50:55,131
video it simply doesn't matter my

3327
02:51:01,450 --> 02:50:57,290
opinion doesn't matter

3328
02:51:04,690 --> 02:51:01,460
but I'll say this the porto rico video

3329
02:51:07,661 --> 02:51:04,700
when i watch that it's one of the rare

3330
02:51:13,511 --> 02:51:07,671
instances where i'm able to sit back and

3331
02:51:14,690 --> 02:51:13,521
go WTF right that i can't resolve in my

3332
02:51:18,370 --> 02:51:14,700
mind

3333
02:51:20,960 --> 02:51:18,380
there is something in this video and

3334
02:51:23,030 --> 02:51:20,970
that that's what I get out of the puerto

3335
02:51:27,140 --> 02:51:23,040
rico video and i'm just surprised that

3336
02:51:28,580 --> 02:51:27,150
it hasn't grabbed hold of this community

3337
02:51:30,530 --> 02:51:28,590
in the rest of the world because there's

3338
02:51:35,421 --> 02:51:30,540
something astounding and remarkable

3339
02:51:39,620 --> 02:51:35,431
about that video yeah that's for sure

3340
02:51:42,230 --> 02:51:39,630
it is and it you know it's a let me see

3341
02:51:46,400 --> 02:51:42,240
if I can find this email read out what

3342
02:51:49,881 --> 02:51:46,410
this guy wrote me it but while I'm

3343
02:51:55,910 --> 02:51:49,891
looking for that it's a it's a video

3344
02:51:59,000 --> 02:51:55,920
that that is it's you know it's it was

3345
02:52:02,620 --> 02:51:59,010
it someone someone put it out there on

3346
02:52:04,790 --> 02:52:02,630
purpose it wasn't it was not classified

3347
02:52:06,950 --> 02:52:04,800
because it was I believe it was a

3348
02:52:09,500 --> 02:52:06,960
homeland security plane or something

3349
02:52:14,740 --> 02:52:09,510
yeah I tell you how I'll tell you how it

3350
02:52:17,960 --> 02:52:14,750
broke it was through Joshua P Warren and

3351
02:52:22,100 --> 02:52:17,970
he you know he lived in Puerto Rico and

3352
02:52:24,350 --> 02:52:22,110
he got the video from someone in Puerto

3353
02:52:27,680 --> 02:52:24,360
Rico and then I'm fade to black

3354
02:52:31,430 --> 02:52:27,690
and I believe it was two years ago on

3355
02:52:35,120 --> 02:52:31,440
fade to black reveal that video and we

3356
02:52:36,860 --> 02:52:35,130
did it here and I thought Whitley at the

3357
02:52:39,020 --> 02:52:36,870
time I thought man this is this is it

3358
02:52:44,091 --> 02:52:39,030
right this is it this is the Holy Grail

3359
02:52:48,171 --> 02:52:44,101
and it just it just didn't take off

3360
02:52:52,131 --> 02:52:48,181
oh no pun intended but I I thought it

3361
02:52:54,980 --> 02:52:52,141
was it was shocking to see and I think

3362
02:52:57,890 --> 02:52:54,990
anybody that sees it agrees whoa this is

3363
02:53:00,801 --> 02:52:57,900
this is incredible but but the media

3364
02:53:07,011 --> 02:53:00,811
just decided to ignore it okay did you

3365
02:53:08,301 --> 02:53:07,021
find the email yes okay I sent it sent

3366
02:53:10,131 --> 02:53:08,311
him an email saying this is a physical

3367
02:53:11,690 --> 02:53:10,141
object the video was made by an

3368
02:53:14,660 --> 02:53:11,700
automatic surveillance camera in Puerto

3369
02:53:17,890 --> 02:53:14,670
Rico some years ago he replies true not

3370
02:53:19,610 --> 02:53:17,900
a tic-tac slow 60 knots no odd behaviors

3371
02:53:21,470 --> 02:53:19,620
photographed from a department of

3372
02:53:24,860 --> 02:53:21,480
homeland security single-engine prop

3373
02:53:27,140 --> 02:53:24,870
aircraft camera features auto following

3374
02:53:28,580 --> 02:53:27,150
I recall the speed between being between

3375
02:53:32,560 --> 02:53:28,590
40 and 70 miles an hour

3376
02:53:37,520 --> 02:53:35,960
also reported by DHS is sixty knots of

3377
02:53:40,610 --> 02:53:37,530
an object appeared to enter water and

3378
02:53:44,030 --> 02:53:40,620
re-emerge which it did was explained was

3379
02:53:47,120 --> 02:53:44,040
a classified uso not odd in any way to

3380
02:53:50,660 --> 02:53:47,130
alter physics way to be not in any way

3381
02:53:51,620 --> 02:53:50,670
related to tic-tac sorry for or either

3382
02:53:54,080 --> 02:53:51,630
the Nimitz

3383
02:53:55,360 --> 02:53:54,090
or the Roosevelt on Atlantic coast later

3384
02:54:01,910 --> 02:53:55,370
in 2014

3385
02:54:05,349 --> 02:54:01,920
classified us oh yeah it does not mean

3386
02:54:07,700 --> 02:54:05,359
that it is ours it's a very cleverly

3387
02:54:10,639 --> 02:54:07,710
worded thing hmm

3388
02:54:15,020 --> 02:54:10,649
it means that they know what it is not

3389
02:54:20,570 --> 02:54:15,030
that it is ours hmm see that's

3390
02:54:22,940 --> 02:54:20,580
fascinating hmm hmm I don't have words

3391
02:54:24,800 --> 02:54:22,950
right now that's uh that's a very

3392
02:54:27,260 --> 02:54:24,810
interesting response and obviously I

3393
02:54:29,990 --> 02:54:27,270
know who this person is I don't know who

3394
02:54:32,120 --> 02:54:30,000
wrote it but no if I you don't know this

3395
02:54:34,639 --> 02:54:32,130
person he's not in he's not at ETS a

3396
02:54:37,160 --> 02:54:34,649
person oh I thought he was okay oh no no

3397
02:54:40,160 --> 02:54:37,170
no not at all he's he's in an entirely

3398
02:54:41,719 --> 02:54:40,170
different area and you would never and

3399
02:54:46,550 --> 02:54:41,729
he's a personal friend of mine it has

3400
02:54:50,750 --> 02:54:46,560
been for many years okay so it's it's

3401
02:54:52,550 --> 02:54:50,760
very interesting on every level they

3402
02:54:53,719 --> 02:54:52,560
they nobody out say anything that

3403
02:54:56,900 --> 02:54:53,729
they're that's classified

3404
02:54:58,610 --> 02:54:56,910
nor did I repeat anything is classified

3405
02:55:00,770 --> 02:54:58,620
I don't even know anything is classified

3406
02:55:05,750 --> 02:55:00,780
about that would you interpret this the

3407
02:55:10,780 --> 02:55:05,760
USO is a interesting term to use yeah

3408
02:55:14,840 --> 02:55:10,790
are you are you are you confident in

3409
02:55:17,270 --> 02:55:14,850
macine or hearing you ap that this is

3410
02:55:19,639 --> 02:55:17,280
like an identified aerial phenomena or

3411
02:55:21,710 --> 02:55:19,649
underwater yeah well you know under

3412
02:55:27,950 --> 02:55:21,720
surface object or something I guess

3413
02:55:32,240 --> 02:55:27,960
right but it's but it nah nod in any way

3414
02:55:37,550 --> 02:55:32,250
to alt physics is code for saying we

3415
02:55:39,679 --> 02:55:37,560
know what it is in in exotic the world

3416
02:55:41,650 --> 02:55:39,689
of exotic physics right that doesn't

3417
02:55:44,230 --> 02:55:41,660
necessarily mean it's ours

3418
02:55:46,390 --> 02:55:44,240
very interesting and thank you for that

3419
02:55:49,420 --> 02:55:46,400
thank you for looking that up Whitley

3420
02:55:51,070 --> 02:55:49,430
what a great conversation tonight it is

3421
02:55:53,560 --> 02:55:51,080
just awesome every time you're on the

3422
02:55:58,240 --> 02:55:53,570
show with us but really quick for

3423
02:56:01,801 --> 02:55:58,250
everybody how often do you put out

3424
02:56:05,051 --> 02:56:01,811
dreamland and where can everybody go to

3425
02:56:08,110 --> 02:56:05,061
subscribe ok there are lots of ways to

3426
02:56:11,370 --> 02:56:08,120
do this first of all dreamland is free

3427
02:56:13,930 --> 02:56:11,380
and subscription if you get the free

3428
02:56:15,970 --> 02:56:13,940
listen to it free you can listen to it a

3429
02:56:19,500 --> 02:56:15,980
lot of places including on Katy re on

3430
02:56:25,750 --> 02:56:19,510
Saturday night's paranormal radio app

3431
02:56:27,910 --> 02:56:25,760
Alexa Apple podcasts tune in radio lots

3432
02:56:29,770 --> 02:56:27,920
of places and you will hear the

3433
02:56:32,200 --> 02:56:29,780
commercials and when you do hear the

3434
02:56:33,970 --> 02:56:32,210
commercials I am now exerting mind

3435
02:56:37,511 --> 02:56:33,980
control and you will do what you are

3436
02:56:39,190 --> 02:56:37,521
told by my commercials they're all

3437
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commercials for the site we don't take

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outside advertising and out from my

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books and whatnot and this week we have

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a great show we have two close encounter

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witnesses that were mentioned in Preston

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Dennett's book that he published very

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recently about onboard UFO encounters we

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had him last week and now two of the

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witnesses this week and they will be

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with us in the subscriber chat room on

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Wednesday night the sites very active it

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has a free message board for anyone who

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doesn't want to pay or can't pay because

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one of the things I learned very early

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on from the visitors were not when I was

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gonna we any and I knew what we would be

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02:57:28,270 --> 02:57:25,610
doing with this was it as much of it as

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possible had to be free so it is mm-hm

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but that also means that people who have

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a sense of understanding the importance

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of all of this need to go over there and

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subscribe it's for ninety-five a month

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and there's lots of different ways to

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subscribe you can do PayPal or credit

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card or anything we do not we are easy

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02:57:54,850 --> 02:57:52,641
to handle when it comes if you want to

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02:57:56,530 --> 02:57:54,860
quit you know you can get your

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your money back usually for the last

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month you paid etc and so forth and when

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people if people can't afford it they

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02:58:07,450 --> 02:58:04,431
can always ask and get a few month free

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subscription if they want so awesome

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Whitley keep doing your thing man and

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you're just a treasure and a resource

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for the community and for the world and

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and you know I mean that but thank you

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so much thank you

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Whitley Strieber and Whitley's links

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again are over at Jimmy Church radio.com

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and there you have it we just went

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through overtime pole to pole a straight

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two and a half hours with Whitley

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Strieber thank you so much Whitley fade

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to black so executive producer I'm gonna

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02:58:44,081 --> 02:58:42,471
go straight into credits right now paid

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to Black's executive producers free to

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come around shows produced by Hill J

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palm Rene Dennis and Kevin announcers

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our Steve our dojin Vitolo mark dee

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Kovar Blood master is Drew the geek

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music doug aldrich intro space boys

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space boy music comm beta black is

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an ax this broadcast own a copyright of

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2020 by fade to black in the game

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changer Network Inc it cannot be

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rebroadcast download a copy that were

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used anywhere in the known universe

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without written permission from fade to

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black of the GameChanger network I'm

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02:59:20,261 --> 02:59:19,311
Yours Jimi church tomorrow night right

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here Johnny

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Enoch very special thanks to Whitley

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02:59:27,810 --> 02:59:25,490
Strieber until tomorrow night I want

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everybody to be saved